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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Eric,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There’s a signal there already. Are you thinking of having
a ‘no right on red’ restriction there? That would be a good idea –
I like it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The path will run about as far as Judicial, then the Coastal
Rail Trail alignment will become a bike lane connection along Judicial and
Eastgate Mall (to the west), and then bike path again down into Roselle Canyon.
If it ever happens. It’s a pretty long range plan at this point. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kathy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Eric Converse
[mailto:econver@yahoo.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 02, 2008 4:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kathy Keehan; Serge Issakov; JonIsaacs@aol.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> sdcbc@bikesandiego.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SDCBC] Stupid Bike Lane<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi
Kathy,<br>
<br>
What about an all-way stop for bicyclists and pedestrians at this intersection?<br>
<br>
The Rose Canyon/La Jolla Colony path you are speaking of, how far would it run
north along the rail?<br>
<br>
Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>----- Original Message ----<br>
From: Kathy Keehan <execdir@sdcbc.org><br>
To: Serge Issakov <serge@issakov.org>; JonIsaacs@aol.com<br>
Cc: sdcbc@bikesandiego.org<br>
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 4:06:22 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Stupid Bike Lane<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>¢</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ve got it right, Serge. It is on my list, there is no plan, and
the offi</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>cial response is that bicyclists are perfectly able to cross the
intersection as a pedestrian, so it</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>¢</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>s not a problem. About
the best we can hope for, even with a plan, is to have improved signage and a
left turn </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>¡</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>bike only</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>¢</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> move from LJColony to the bike p</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ath. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There is a plan to extend the bike path north east along the
rail right of way parallel to LJ Colony, but I</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>¢</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>m not
sure of the access points from the street at the moment. There would be access
at Regents, Genesee, and Judicial probably, but not sure </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>about
any others. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kathy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
sdcbc-bounces@bikesandiego.org [mailto:sdcbc-bounces@bikesandiego.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Serge Issakov<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> JonIsaacs@aol.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> sdcbc@bikesandiego.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SDCBC] Stupid Bike Lane</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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It seems like we talk about the LJ Colony Drive/Rose Canyon bike path
discontinuity on this list every 6 months or so. As far as I know there
is no plan.<br>
<br>
I'm sure it's on Kathy's wish list. But even if the city (or whoever)
said they have, say, $500k to fix it, I'm not sure what could be done.
One ideas is a "fly over", but that would cost millions, I'm sure.<br>
<br>
Extending the path north east parallel to LJCD between the sidewalk and the RR
track, and having a sane entrance at one of the intersections on LJCD might
work. Maybe. Basically, this would formalize the current "use
the sidewalk" method, but avoid having to use the actual sidewalk, except
to cross it once.<br>
<br>
Or here's a new idea. Reconfigure the intersection to allow U turns right
there (and no right on red for n/b I-5 traffic headed for LJCD). Then
cyclists could get into the left lane as if to make a legal U turn, and then
proceed on the green arrow but abort the U turn mid stream to get onto the
path. Not totally elegant but probably better that what we have now and
perhaps affordable.<br>
<br>
Serge<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:57 PM, <<a
href="mailto:JonIsaacs@aol.com" target="_blank">JonIsaacs@aol.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In a message dated 5/1/08 7:23:40 PM Pacific
Daylight Time, <a href="mailto:rob_leone@earthlink.net" target="_blank">rob_leone@earthlink.net</a>
writes:<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>One
of the possibilities enumberated was<br>
qoute<br>
<br>
- Ride under the bridge and make a U-Turn at the light at Gilman and I-5<br>
end of quote<br>
<br>
Unfortunately, as part of the newly rebuilt Gilman/I-5 intersection <br>
"they" hanged a "No U Turn" sign from the traffic signal.<br>
<br>
Robert Leone</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----<br>
<br>
Rob:<br>
<br>
I guess one could ride up to the Park and Ride and turn around there or maybe
on up a mile or so to the next traffic light. Overall, it seems like
there is a real problem there, I don't see an easy fix but a fix is definitely
needed.<br>
<br>
What do the folks in the know say about about plans for this region???<br>
<br>
Jon</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
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