<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hi Kathy,<br><br>What about an all-way stop for bicyclists and pedestrians at this intersection?<br><br>The Rose Canyon/La Jolla Colony path you are speaking of, how far would it run north along the rail?<br><br>Eric<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Kathy Keehan <execdir@sdcbc.org><br>To: Serge Issakov <serge@issakov.org>; JonIsaacs@aol.com<br>Cc: sdcbc@bikesandiego.org<br>Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 4:06:22 PM<br>Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Stupid Bike Lane<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">You˘ve got it right, Serge. It is on my list, there is no
plan, and the official response is that bicyclists are perfectly able to cross
the intersection as a pedestrian, so it˘s not a problem. About the best
we can hope for, even with a plan, is to have improved signage and a left turn ˇbike
only˘ move from LJColony to the bike path. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">There is a plan to extend the bike path north east along the
rail right of way parallel to LJ Colony, but I˘m not sure of the access
points from the street at the moment. There would be access at Regents,
Genesee, and Judicial probably, but not sure about any others. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kathy</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
sdcbc-bounces@bikesandiego.org [mailto:sdcbc-bounces@bikesandiego.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Serge Issakov<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> JonIsaacs@aol.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> sdcbc@bikesandiego.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SDCBC] Stupid Bike Lane</span></p>
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It seems like we talk about the LJ Colony Drive/Rose Canyon bike path
discontinuity on this list every 6 months or so. As far as I know there
is no plan.<br>
<br>
I'm sure it's on Kathy's wish list. But even if the city (or whoever)
said they have, say, $500k to fix it, I'm not sure what could be done.
One ideas is a "fly over", but that would cost millions, I'm sure.<br>
<br>
Extending the path north east parallel to LJCD between the sidewalk and the RR
track, and having a sane entrance at one of the intersections on LJCD might
work. Maybe. Basically, this would formalize the current "use
the sidewalk" method, but avoid having to use the actual sidewalk, except
to cross it once.<br>
<br>
Or here's a new idea. Reconfigure the intersection to allow U turns right
there (and no right on red for n/b I-5 traffic headed for LJCD). Then
cyclists could get into the left lane as if to make a legal U turn, and then
proceed on the green arrow but abort the U turn mid stream to get onto the
path. Not totally elegant but probably better that what we have now and
perhaps affordable.<br>
<br>
Serge<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:57 PM, <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:JonIsaacs@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:JonIsaacs@aol.com">JonIsaacs@aol.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">In
a message dated 5/1/08 7:23:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rob_leone@earthlink.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:rob_leone@earthlink.net">rob_leone@earthlink.net</a>
writes:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">One
of the possibilities enumberated was<br>
qoute<br>
<br>
- Ride under the bridge and make a U-Turn at the light at Gilman and I-5<br>
end of quote<br>
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Unfortunately, as part of the newly rebuilt Gilman/I-5 intersection <br>
"they" hanged a "No U Turn" sign from the traffic signal.<br>
<br>
Robert Leone</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">----<br>
<br>
Rob:<br>
<br>
I guess one could ride up to the Park and Ride and turn around there or maybe
on up a mile or so to the next traffic light. Overall, it seems like
there is a real problem there, I don't see an easy fix but a fix is definitely
needed.<br>
<br>
What do the folks in the know say about about plans for this region???<br>
<br>
Jon</span><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"><br>
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