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<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial>Serge,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial>You asked: "What can we do
to get cyclists to stop talking and, more importantly, to stop <SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">thinking</SPAN> like this?"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial> .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial>The concept is easy, just
make them aware of their road rights and responsibilities; this you do with
education not stripes. The implementation OTOH is difficult, since it
takes time for people's emotions to catch up. Even if you learn and "know"
in the intellectual sense that you as a cyclist have the right to control lanes
for your own safety, it takes time before you "feel" comfortable doing
this. We have found that video showing the on-bike cyclist perspective
helps most people overcome their aversion to controlling lanes and accelerates
the process of getting them to act like drivers and feel comfortable doing
it.<BR> .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial><FONT>Serge also asked:
"Dan/Brian - any chance you can share a link to that
clip?"</FONT><BR> .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial>Just go to our main website
</FONT><A href="http://www.DualChase.com"><FONT face=Arial
color=#000000>www.DualChase.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial> and click on the
video sample link to the CyclistView website near the bottom of the home
page. This will play the clips on two slides from our Integrated Traffic
Cycling(TM) introduction. The first slide shows lane control on a 4 lane
road as part of a description of the skills needed by cyclists to act as vehicle
drivers, the second is the side by side comparison Serge wants you to see,
which demonstrates very nicely that all other variables (cyclist, bike,
speed-15mph, trafic conditions, lane widths, etc.) being equal, the way
motorists pass cyclists is determined by the cyclists' lane position. Too
far right, and the cyclist will be pased uncomfortably closely within the same
lane, far enough left and the motorists make lane changes. These two clips
wer taken less than two minutes apart during afternoon commute traffic.
This effect is quite striking, and in practice very nice for those cyclists that
learn to control lanes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial> .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial>I should also note that on
Friday afternoon, I showed Monica Howe, the oureach coordinator of the LA County
Bicycle Coalition, our inclusive advocacy briefing, and explained our right to
use road space (much centering on the flowdown from CVC21200 to 21650 to 21654,
and the further restrictions of 21202) some of which she wasn't aware (didn't
know about CVC21202 exception (a)(4) for example). Since Monica has become
the media darling for the LA times and TV news (she was in the Road Wars!
piece), and is interested in imporving her traffic skills, Brian and I will be
training her and some other LACBC members in the near future. My goal in
this work is to make the advocates more aware of their rights and be better
spokespeople for integrated cycling and the rest of the cycling behavior
spectrum.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial> .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007><FONT face=Arial> .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=109343717-11022007>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> serge.issakov@gmail.com
[mailto:serge.issakov@gmail.com]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Serge
Issakov<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 11, 2007 8:37 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
DarrylMacKenzie@cox.net<BR><B>Cc:</B> San Diego County Bicycle Coalition; Dan
Gutierrez; Brian DeSousa<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SDCBC] FW: Bikes vs Cars. An
NBC news story in L.A.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR>At least they acknowledged the
<SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">concept</SPAN> of cyclists acting like vehicle
drivers, though they misrepresented what it is ("bikes acting like cars"), did
not give a hint about how well it works, and basically quickly dismissed it
("just won't work in L.A" - no mention of why) and moved on to the tired old
"solution": separation of cyclists from motor traffic through the use of
"facilities". <BR><BR>The clip of the KFI road cyclist Michael Clarke at 0:55
being closely passed in a narrow lane looked like it was a typical southern CA
arterial, the type on which Dan Gutierrez and Brian DeSousa have filmed and
shown dramatically the effect of riding as far right as Clarke is shown to be
riding versus riding just a couple of feet further left. In the former
case -- using the Clarke "separation style", if you will -- most
drivers are invited to pass by squeezing into the narrow lane with the cyclist,
just like it was shown on this news report. In the latter case, by riding
in a lane-controlling position, everyone changes lanes to pass, and the cyclist
has plenty of room. <BR><BR>In addition to his riding style, Clarke reveals why
he has the issues that he has through his own words of deference, "there is no
sense of sharing, it is a battle for space. I have to battle for my five
inches out there". <SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Battle</SPAN>?
Five inches? Can anyone say, "self-fulfilling prophecy"? At the end
of the piece, at 3:22, Clarke discloses more about his sense of inferiority:
"Right now the cars rule. It's their road. And it's my job to go in
there and figure a way in and out of them". <BR><BR>What can we do to get
cyclists to stop talking and, more importantly, to stop <SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">thinking</SPAN> like this?<BR><BR>Dan/Brian - any
chance you can share a link to that clip?<BR><BR>Serge <BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 2/8/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Darryl
MacKenzie</B> <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:DarrylMacKenzie@cox.net"
target=_blank>DarrylMacKenzie@cox.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Interesting
story from a former Cyclo-Vet.<BR><BR>Hi All,<BR><BR>I just saw a news story
on NBC, Channel 4, LA. It was called "Road Wars"<BR>and was a news
exclusive about bikes vs. cars. I taped it and then had the <BR>story uploaded
to YouTube. The news previews made it look like a hard<BR>hitting and scary
piece for cyclists. They could have done a lot better with<BR>the story. Check
it out and see for yourself.<BR><A
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