<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/7/07 9:05:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, gcarman@san.rr.com writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I do agree that cyclists running red lights certainly does nothing <BR>
for our image as law abiding road users... but in the case of stop <BR>
signs, quite a few motorists fail to come to a complete stop... and <BR>
are just as guilty as some cyclists.<BR>
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I see both cyclists and motorists "roll" stop signs. It is very rare that I see a motorist "run" a stop light or stop sign, never slowing at all. In contrast, I often see cyclists run both, never slowing in the least, whether going 15 mph or 25mph.<BR>
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I find it particularly annoying to stop at a 4 way stop, only to have a cyclist run the stop sign. Whether they are going the same direction I am or at right angles, it is a problem. I think it is a particular safety problem when someone blows (particularly on the right) past me while I am stopped or starting up... I normal catch up to them and let them know... <BR>
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When I am on my best behavior, my approach is: " Hello. You do realize you just ran that stop sign where I was stopped. Cyclists are required by law to stop at stop signs. If I had wobbled at bit as I took off, we could have both gone down. So if you are riding around me, please don't run stop signs."<BR>
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Sometimes this works and occasionally I even get an apology. <BR>
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Jon<BR>
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