[SDCBC] Stupid Bike Lane

Fri May 2 19:21:45 EDT 2008

Hi Eric,

There's a signal there already. Are you thinking of having a 'no right on
red' restriction there? That would be a good idea - I like it. 

The path will run about as far as Judicial, then the Coastal Rail Trail
alignment will become a bike lane connection along Judicial and Eastgate
Mall (to the west), and then bike path again down into Roselle Canyon. If it
ever happens. It's a pretty long range plan at this point. 

Kathy

From: Eric Converse [mailto:econver at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:16 PM
To: Kathy Keehan; Serge Issakov; JonIsaacs at aol.com
Cc: sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Stupid Bike Lane

Hi Kathy,

What about an all-way stop for bicyclists and pedestrians at this
intersection?

The Rose Canyon/La Jolla Colony path you are speaking of, how far would it
run north along the rail?

Eric

----- Original Message ----
From: Kathy Keehan <execdir at sdcbc.org>
To: Serge Issakov <serge at issakov.org>; JonIsaacs at aol.com
Cc: sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 4:06:22 PM
Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Stupid Bike Lane

You?ve got it right, Serge. It is on my list, there is no plan, and the
official response is that bicyclists are perfectly able to cross the
intersection as a pedestrian, so it?s not a problem. About the best we can
hope for, even with a plan, is to have improved signage and a left turn
?bike only? move from LJColony to the bike path. 

There is a plan to extend the bike path north east along the rail right of
way parallel to LJ Colony, but I?m not sure of the access points from the
street at the moment. There would be access at Regents, Genesee, and
Judicial probably, but not sure about any others. 

Kathy

From: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org [mailto:sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org]
On Behalf Of Serge Issakov
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:14 PM
To: JonIsaacs at aol.com
Cc: sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Stupid Bike Lane

It seems like we talk about the LJ Colony Drive/Rose Canyon bike path
discontinuity on this list every 6 months or so.  As far as I know there is
no plan.

I'm sure it's on Kathy's wish list.  But even if the city (or whoever) said
they have, say, $500k to fix it, I'm not sure what could be done.  One ideas
is a "fly over", but that would cost millions, I'm sure.

Extending the path north east parallel to LJCD between the sidewalk and the
RR track, and having a sane entrance at one of the intersections on LJCD
might work.  Maybe.  Basically, this would formalize the current "use the
sidewalk" method, but avoid having to use the actual sidewalk, except to
cross it once.

Or here's a new idea.  Reconfigure the intersection to allow U turns right
there (and no right on red for n/b I-5 traffic headed for LJCD).  Then
cyclists could get into the left lane as if to make a legal U turn, and then
proceed on the green arrow but abort the U turn mid stream to get onto the
path.  Not totally elegant but probably better that what we have now and
perhaps affordable.

Serge

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:57 PM, <JonIsaacs at aol.com> wrote:

In a message dated 5/1/08 7:23:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rob_leone at earthlink.net writes:

One of the possibilities enumberated was
qoute

- Ride under the bridge and make a U-Turn at the light at Gilman and I-5
end of quote

Unfortunately, as part of the newly rebuilt Gilman/I-5 intersection 
"they" hanged a "No U Turn" sign from the traffic signal.

Robert Leone

----

Rob:

I guess one could ride up to the Park and Ride and turn around there or
maybe on up a mile or so to the next traffic light.  Overall, it seems like
there is a real problem there, I don't see an easy fix but a fix is
definitely needed.

What do the folks in the know say about about plans for this region???

Jon

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