[SDCBC] Bogota vs. San Diego

[Derek Hofmann]

As a short-term, possibly cheaper alternative to building new fully
separated bike paths along freeways, how about creating "official" bike
routes that roughly parallel freeways, using existing streets and new signs
pointing the way? For example, the SR-52 bike route could use Clairemont
Mesa Boulevard for one leg of the route.

On 3/30/08, Gene Carman <gcarman at san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> Actually a bikepath "hiway" along the same routes of the existing freeways
> would probably serve the largest population in the area due to population
> growth that tends to occur along freeways.  Cyclists want to go to the same
> locations as drivers.
>
> In many cases, there is a wider amount of land dedicated to the freeway
> right of way then is actually used for freeway...  a single bikepath can be
> created in less space then 2 new lanes on a freeway, and along the same
> right of way.   Adding a 10 foot wide bikepath can reduce the traffic load
> on a freeway more then adding two 10 foot wide lanes to a Freeway can reduce
> congestion.
>
> Funding should come from the same agencies that fund Freeways...  bike
> transportation facilities are simply another form of public transportation.
>
> OK, I've answered all the questions...  when do we get started?
>
>
>
> At 10:13 AM 3/30/2008, Jim Baross, Jr. wrote:
>
> I'm happy and supportive of Eric's inspirations! Speaking in generalities,
> this sounds and could be wonderful... though you are likely to read
> responses about how it couldn't or shouldn't be done.  :-(
> To seriously act on the inspiration - one that isn't BTW new to many of us
> - something besides dreaming and typing needs doing, right?
>
> Now, a few task suggestions. Figure out exactly where you think such a
> proposal would work in the San Diego area; a Bike Path or maybe a Bicycle
> Boulevard or ? ... connecting what and following or creating what route...
> then maybe think about/research an estimate of costs 'cause besides
> location, cost matters big time! You might be ready then with a proposal
> that SDCBC, an individual, or ? would propose to the site-owning agency for
> funding. Sound exciting? Good, then do it.
>
> It's sort of useless to debate the generalities between facility types
> when it's the specific site and uses that make for bigger differences, IMHO.
> Let's get specific.
> * Ban all but bikes, transit and delivery vehicles in a downtown area?...
> or impose single-occupancy vehicle use taxes for downtown like London has?
> * Create a Bike Path/MUP/Bike Boulevard linking Mid City or UCSD/SDSU or ?
> to Downtown or University Town Center/La Mesa or ?
> * what?
>
> Jim (likes dreams, lives reality) Baross
>
> At 01:52 AM 3/30/2008, Eric Converse wrote:
>
> I've been inspired.  These recent discussions on bicycle paths have led me
> to create the following blog entry:
>
> San Diego and Bogota Columbia (a bicyle path comparison):
> www.ativsolutions.com/cblog
>
> In short, you'll notice that Bogota (serving a much larger, and poorer,
> population) does a couple of things we don't do here.  Their bicycle paths
> are contiguous and are routed through major population centers.  While many
> of our bicycle paths, while pretty (riding next to the water mainly),are
> often fragmented with huge gaps between them.  What we need are long
> continuous paths (much like our freeway system) that provide a backbone for
> this city's bicycle transportation network.  Needless to say we won't always
> be on a bicycle path no matter how good we make the system, but we can
> provide a network that links the city together and serves vastly more
> people.
>
> Can't we do at least as good as a poor city in a third world country?
>
> Eric
>
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Thanks,

Derek Hofmann
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