[SDCBC] Bogota vs. San Diego

[Jim Baross, Jr.]

Which one(s) first?

My recommendation - Hwy 52, to/from Hwy 5 as far east as possible/reasonable.
We've tried several times. This canyon non-route is probably one of 
the reasons SDCBC got started; a controversy w/the Sierra Club when 
15 went in.

Maybe there are other sites?

At 02:05 PM 3/30/2008, Gene Carman wrote:

>Actually a bikepath "hiway" along the same routes of the existing 
>freeways would probably serve the largest population in the area due 
>to population growth that tends to occur along freeways.  Cyclists 
>want to go to the same locations as drivers.
>
>In many cases, there is a wider amount of land dedicated to the 
>freeway right of way then is actually used for freeway...  a single 
>bikepath can be created in less space then 2 new lanes on a freeway, 
>and along the same right of way.   Adding a 10 foot wide bikepath 
>can reduce the traffic load on a freeway more then adding two 10 
>foot wide lanes to a Freeway can reduce congestion.
>
>Funding should come from the same agencies that fund 
>Freeways...  bike transportation facilities are simply another form 
>of public transportation.
>
>OK, I've answered all the questions...  when do we get started?
>
>
>
>At 10:13 AM 3/30/2008, Jim Baross, Jr. wrote:
>>I'm happy and supportive of Eric's inspirations! Speaking in 
>>generalities, this sounds and could be wonderful... though you are 
>>likely to read responses about how it couldn't or shouldn't be done.  :-(
>>To seriously act on the inspiration - one that isn't BTW new to 
>>many of us - something besides dreaming and typing needs doing, right?
>>
>>Now, a few task suggestions. Figure out exactly where you think 
>>such a proposal would work in the San Diego area; a Bike Path or 
>>maybe a Bicycle Boulevard or ? ... connecting what and following or 
>>creating what route... then maybe think about/research an estimate 
>>of costs 'cause besides location, cost matters big time! You might 
>>be ready then with a proposal that SDCBC, an individual, or ? would 
>>propose to the site-owning agency for funding. Sound exciting? 
>>Good, then do it.
>>
>>It's sort of useless to debate the generalities between facility 
>>types when it's the specific site and uses that make for bigger 
>>differences, IMHO. Let's get specific.
>>* Ban all but bikes, transit and delivery vehicles in a downtown 
>>area?... or impose single-occupancy vehicle use taxes for downtown 
>>like London has?
>>* Create a Bike Path/MUP/Bike Boulevard linking Mid City or 
>>UCSD/SDSU or ? to Downtown or University Town Center/La Mesa or ?
>>* what?
>>
>>Jim (likes dreams, lives reality) Baross
>>
>>At 01:52 AM 3/30/2008, Eric Converse wrote:
>>>I've been inspired.  These recent discussions on bicycle paths 
>>>have led me to create the following blog entry:
>>>
>>>San Diego and Bogota Columbia (a bicyle path comparison):
>>><http://www.ativsolutions.com/cblog>www.ativsolutions.com/cblog
>>>
>>>In short, you'll notice that Bogota (serving a much larger, and 
>>>poorer, population) does a couple of things we don't do 
>>>here.  Their bicycle paths are contiguous and are routed through 
>>>major population centers.  While many of our bicycle paths, while 
>>>pretty (riding next to the water mainly),are often fragmented with 
>>>huge gaps between them.  What we need are long continuous paths 
>>>(much like our freeway system) that provide a backbone for this 
>>>city's bicycle transportation network.  Needless to say we won't 
>>>always be on a bicycle path no matter how good we make the system, 
>>>but we can provide a network that links the city together and 
>>>serves vastly more people.
>>>
>>>Can't we do at least as good as a poor city in a third world country?
>>>
>>>Eric
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