[SDCBC] Bogota vs. San Diego
Gene Carman
gcarman at san.rr.com
Sun Mar 30 17:05:31 EDT 2008
Actually a bikepath "hiway" along the same routes of the existing
freeways would probably serve the largest population in the area due
to population growth that tends to occur along freeways. Cyclists
want to go to the same locations as drivers.
In many cases, there is a wider amount of land dedicated to the
freeway right of way then is actually used for freeway... a single
bikepath can be created in less space then 2 new lanes on a freeway,
and along the same right of way. Adding a 10 foot wide bikepath can
reduce the traffic load on a freeway more then adding two 10 foot
wide lanes to a Freeway can reduce congestion.
Funding should come from the same agencies that fund
Freeways... bike transportation facilities are simply another form
of public transportation.
OK, I've answered all the questions... when do we get started?
At 10:13 AM 3/30/2008, Jim Baross, Jr. wrote:
>I'm happy and supportive of Eric's inspirations! Speaking in
>generalities, this sounds and could be wonderful... though you are
>likely to read responses about how it couldn't or shouldn't be done. :-(
>To seriously act on the inspiration - one that isn't BTW new to many
>of us - something besides dreaming and typing needs doing, right?
>
>Now, a few task suggestions. Figure out exactly where you think such
>a proposal would work in the San Diego area; a Bike Path or maybe a
>Bicycle Boulevard or ? ... connecting what and following or creating
>what route... then maybe think about/research an estimate of costs
>'cause besides location, cost matters big time! You might be ready
>then with a proposal that SDCBC, an individual, or ? would propose
>to the site-owning agency for funding. Sound exciting? Good, then do it.
>
>It's sort of useless to debate the generalities between facility
>types when it's the specific site and uses that make for bigger
>differences, IMHO. Let's get specific.
>* Ban all but bikes, transit and delivery vehicles in a downtown
>area?... or impose single-occupancy vehicle use taxes for downtown
>like London has?
>* Create a Bike Path/MUP/Bike Boulevard linking Mid City or
>UCSD/SDSU or ? to Downtown or University Town Center/La Mesa or ?
>* what?
>
>Jim (likes dreams, lives reality) Baross
>
>At 01:52 AM 3/30/2008, Eric Converse wrote:
>>I've been inspired. These recent discussions on bicycle paths have
>>led me to create the following blog entry:
>>
>>San Diego and Bogota Columbia (a bicyle path comparison):
>><http://www.ativsolutions.com/cblog>www.ativsolutions.com/cblog
>>
>>In short, you'll notice that Bogota (serving a much larger, and
>>poorer, population) does a couple of things we don't do
>>here. Their bicycle paths are contiguous and are routed through
>>major population centers. While many of our bicycle paths, while
>>pretty (riding next to the water mainly),are often fragmented with
>>huge gaps between them. What we need are long continuous paths
>>(much like our freeway system) that provide a backbone for this
>>city's bicycle transportation network. Needless to say we won't
>>always be on a bicycle path no matter how good we make the system,
>>but we can provide a network that links the city together and
>>serves vastly more people.
>>
>>Can't we do at least as good as a poor city in a third world country?
>>
>>Eric
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