[SDCBC] What where they thinking?
John Forester
forester at johnforester.com
Thu Mar 27 16:40:35 EDT 2008
It is all very well to argue that we should base our safety programs on
potential dangers. In a case such as the Apollo program, one has to do
such analyses because there are very few chances for success. However,
when discussing a highway safety program, one has a long experience of
crashes on which to base one's program. I would suggest, though I
haven't the source for all the data required, that a program of more
right-turn-only lanes would produce a greater reduction in car-bike
collisions than would spending an equal amount of money building Jersey
barriers along roads with high-speed travel.
Big50_1 at yahoo.com wrote:
> I've been following this thread and several items came to mind: (a)
> biking for exercise, (b) biking for transportation (safe) and (c)
> biking for transportation (not-so-safe). (A) Biking for exercise: SR56
> and San Luis Rey River Trail are two examples of continuous
> bike-friendly roads that kinda' start nowhere and end nowhere but are
> great in-between (by the way I'm working a training plan on SR56 to do
> a metric century, I love that road!). (B) Biking for transportation
> (safe): examples are Pacific Beach and over-seas urban locations
> (China, Philippines, etc.) where road congestion is high and car speed
> is low. Bikes and cars intermingle safely and bikes are used to get
> around the local area with more efficiency than cars. Then there is
> (C), biking for transportation (not-so-safe): this any place where the
> car-bike speed differential is high. Kinda' every place else. You
> can spin it any way you want but the fact is that unless there is a
> physical barrier between high-speed cars and low-speed bikes, there is
> potentially extreme danger to the bike rider. Even with the best
> bike-friendly road markings. Poorly laid-out road markings for bikers
> may increase the danger but again, unless there is a physical barrier
> between cars and bikes, there is always potential danger for the biker
> that can never be removed. Why the angst re road markings? Better
> road-marking will (may?) lower the instance but NOT eliminate biker
> damage from bike-car accidents. Barriers, class 1 roadways and maybe
> better technology (bike-avoidance radar in cars) would drastically
> reduce biker fatalities/injury. Just my $.02.
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