[SDCBC] What were they thinking?

[Gene Carman]

50MPH arterial???  it is a 55MPH arterial!!!  Remember just a couple 
decades back this was the national speed limit...  and here, and now 
we are seeing that speed limit on "shared" surface streets...  sigh...

I wonder what speed the motorists will actually be driving.

At 12:49 PM 3/24/2008, Kathy Keehan wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>I'm not sure about the inclusion of the two right turn only lanes, but I
>expect it might happen - they're doing a lot of work in the median right
>now. But it might just be that they accidentally used the same signs as for
>the eastbound Camino Del Norte interchange, where there are two right turn
>only lanes.:-)
>There was considerable debate with Caltrans about the configuration of the
>street up to the interchange. We pushed hard for that bike lane to be long
>so that bicyclists wouldn't be trapped to the right of the right turning
>motorists. They didn't want to stripe the bike lane at all, and if they did
>they wanted to keep it to the right all the way up to the signal. I think
>this is better, although not ideal. I'm not exactly sure what 'ideal' would
>be on this six lane 50 mph arterial, though.
>Kathy
>P.S. Did you see they restriped Rancho Bernardo Road at the I-15 as well?
>They got rid of the shoulder and make it an additional right turn only lane,
>with a straight plus right/HOV option. It's a horrible design, especially
>since it's dark under the bridge and therefore difficult to see a bicyclist
>taking the lane on the fairly long uphill through the interchange. I'm
>hoping to convince Caltrans that they don't need the HOV option (since the
>actual entrance to the HOV lanes is off West Bernardo Drive) but I don't
>anticipate much luck there.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org [mailto:sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org]
>On Behalf Of Tom Lettington
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:37 PM
>To: SDCBC
>Subject: [SDCBC] What were they thinking?
>
>http://www.tfl.net/MyPhotoAlbums/CaminoDelNorteApproachingI15FromEast/
>is a sequence of 10 photos taken as I approached Interstate 15 on
>Camino Del Norte westbound.  This is within the City Limits of San
>Diego in an area where the I15 Northbound on-ramp approach has been
>under construction for well over a year, perhaps longer.  This area
>was recently completed with new striping and new signs and then
>opened for traffic. The right turn only lane for entering the freeway
>on-ramp is quite long with a very early traditional transition of the
>Bike Lane from curb-side to adjacent (to the left) of the single
>right turn lane.  Three signs to the right of the sidewalk
>erroneously show two right-turn-only lanes to the right of the bike lane.
>
>I suppose it is possible that the lane alignment will change to be
>consistent with the signage after the present construction on the
>eastbound side of Camino Del Norte is completed, but I seriously doubt it.
>
>Note the large SDG&E truck is the last photo of the sequence using
>the bike lane to get a head start on a wide right turn.
>
>I ask again: What were they thinking?  It was thoughtful of them to
>place the "Road Construction Ahead" signs in the bike lane - but then
>they almost always do that.  I have submitted a "Service Request" to
>the City of San Diego Street Division.
>
>      - Tom
>
>Note:  Click on the thumbnail photo to get the larger view and access
>to controls for browsing and/or a slide show.
>
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