[SDCBC] Fwd: MTC to study Idaho "stop-and-roll" law

[John Forester]

I disagree with this one part of Jon Isaacs's statement: "One stops 
because of the unexpected.   There are definitely situations when a stop 
is necessary." I say that wherever there is a stop sign, or a yield 
sign, cross traffic is expected. The sign is there to protect that 
crossing traffic. It is the absence of crossing traffic that should be 
considered to be the unexpected, which therefore allows a change in plan 
after determining that this unexpected event has occurred.

JonIsaacs at aol.com wrote:
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> In a message dated 6/19/2008 5:11:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> j.eldon at sbcglobal.net writes:
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>     I certainly do not want overzealous or revenue-starved law
>     enforcement officers emulating Oceanside police and ticketing
>     bicyclists who trackstand at stop signs instead of putting a foot
>     down.
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> Hi:
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> It is my understanding that the foot down stop does not apply to 
> bicyclists but rather to motorcyclists.  Maybe someone like Jim can 
> clarify this for us.
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> As far as rolling vs stopping, maybe...  But the way I look at it, a 
> stop is a stop.  A slow roll is a bad habit that soon becomes a worse 
> habit, a faster roll at a speed that is too fast to react to the 
> unexpected.  One stops because of the unexpected.   There are 
> definitely situations when a stop is necessary.  Planning on a slow 
> roll, well, it may be too late when it becomes clear that the stop was 
> necessary...
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> But also, stopping at stop signs is good road manners, it is the 
> courteous act of a vehicle operator. 
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> Jon
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John Forester, MS, PE
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