[SDCBC] Time commitment? Re: Road 1 in June

Danette Hoffert danettehoffert at gmail.com
Thu Jun 12 00:11:21 EDT 2008


Jamie,
That is the beauty of it.  We could reach more people which is needed from
my observations.  How about some college kid in need of a project simply
video taping the existing course with the discussions included and even the
bike activities.  Then a shorter final in-class session.  There could be a
way to do part of it on-line.
Just an idea.
Danette

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jamie Ortiz <jamie at baileygardiner.com>
wrote:

> Imagine how many more people could take and learn from the class if the
> first part was an online tutorial and test followed by a riding session.
> Essentially, you could offer a riding session every weekend for all the
> people who passed the test. Take the test at your leisure. Do the riding
> session at your leisure. It's much more flexible to accommodate the wide
> variety of schedules for all San Diegans.
> If Harvard feels comfortable offering online classes and test taking, I'm
> sure we could find a way for it to be meaningful for bike riders.
>
> And there is a lot of talk about educating police officers--how much easier
> would it be to take education to the force if they could require an online
> test to help their teams learn bike safety and laws?
>
>  Jamie Ortiz
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>
>
>  On Jun 11, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Serge Issakov wrote:
>
>  Well, I know for a fact that the "vehicular cycling" feeling can be
> developed outside of a classroom, simply by reading a book, paying
> attention, and applying the concepts to one's riding.
>
> I suspect a well-designed online course could accomplish this even more
> effectively.  Perhaps by explaining some concepts, showing some videos, then
> requiring the student to do some particular exercises, then come back and
> answer questions about them, lather, rinse, repeat.
>
> Serge
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:50 PM, <JonIsaacs at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> In a message dated 6/11/2008 3:42:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> serge at issakov.org writes:
>>
>> Having said that, the classroom discussions tend to be pretty valuable,
>> and the opportunities for those would be limited if most of the material is
>> covered on-line rather than in-class.
>>
>> Serge
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------
>>
>> I am not sure how much could be effectively covered "on-line."  The
>> concepts are pretty simple once one understands the Paradigm but getting
>> that "Vehicular Cycling" feeling developed deep in the gut, ie that one is
>> actually safer "taking the lane", this is probably best done in the
>> classroom.
>>
>> It would seem that some of the equipment related stuff could be put
>> on-line but I wonder how many people could actually learn to adjust a
>> derailleur from an on-line course??? For those who already know, well, they
>> could breeze though it but for those who didn't, I doubt they are going to
>> learn...
>>
>> That's my two cents...
>>
>> Class rooms are great.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>
>>
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