[SDCBC] Fwd: ghost bike

[Robert Leone]

Dear SDCBCers:
	I ride through that instersection on occasion. I've always thought 
getting into the left turn lane the hardest part. That said, I don't 
recall it going on a solo bike -- but there's aways cars. I could see a 
cyclist being tempted by a stale yellow while being followed by a 
motorist whose willingness to stop has not been demonstrated deciding to 
"go for it."

Robert Leone


markw wrote:
> It sounds like this guy was at fault.  Looks like there was a car
> sitting on the sensor and he just went around the car.
> 
> If you're tucking in on the tail of a car, once you enter the
> intersection, you have "control" of the intersection, and if traffic
> gets a green, they have to wait until you clear.  Now it's been my
> experience that they generally do this, but you'll get the impatient
> ones that honk and edge forward.
> 
> I'm with Serge on this, too often the cycling community blames the
> driver of the car and not the "driver" of the bike.  However when I'm
> driving, I often see cyclists doing brain dead things.  I watched a guy
> run the stop sign at Island and 10th this morning on his mountain bike.
> Or last night when I was turning onto the 94, here comes some guy flying
> down the sidewalk and through the intersection against the "walk" light.
> Had he been coming from behind me I would've right hooked him since he
> was riding on the sidewalk at a pretty good pace.  He was coming at me
> so I saw him in time to stop and save my sheet metal. Probably the first
> time he's heard a driver yell "get in the street!" too. :)
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> John Eldon wrote:
> 
>>Does anyone here know whether the left arrow in question responds
>>consistently to bicyclists? Would a bicyclist tucking in behind a
>>left-turning motorist (as most of us presumably would have done) be assured
>>of getting through the light, or would it change too quickly because it
>>"saw" just the motorist? (I have been in this situation many times.)
>>Non-responsive traffic signals and short green light cycles arguably
>>reinforce bad cycling practices.
>>
>>John E.
> 
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