[SDCBC] Fwd: FW: Leucadia Coast Highway 101 Streetscape

Michael Elliott camping.elliott at gmail.com
Tue Feb 19 14:39:31 EST 2008


W/r/t Serge's "Share the road" signs: many motorists I know think that 
the sign is directed only at cyclists, meaning "get out of the way of 
the cars," or don't know what the sign pertains to. The most effective 
signs I've seen have, in addition to the words, a picture of a bicycle 
so the motorists get a clue. If the city agrees to using signs, I'd ask 
that they be urged to use the ones with the pictures.

I like sharrows, too.

Just my $0.02

-- 
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
Carlsbad

On 2/19/2008 10:04 AM Serge Issakov wrote:

> 
> How about painting shared lane markings (sharrows) down the center of 
> the outside lane to make it clear to cyclists as well as motorists that 
> that lane is too narrow to be safely shared side-by-side by 
> bike/vehicle, and motorists need to change lanes to pass?
> 
> The major concern with sharrows (which I don't think we have anywhere in 
> SD County yet) is that they are often painted too far to the right, 
> creating the exact opposite impression: cyclists need to keep to the 
> right and share the lane side-by-side as much as possible.  I'm happy 
> with the way it is which allows for safe and legal lane controlling 
> centerish positioning, but having "share the road" signs couldn't hurt, 
> nor would the sharrows if they were actually centered.
> 
> Serge
> 
> 
> On Feb 19, 2008 6:52 AM, John Eldon <j.eldon at sbcglobal.net 
> <mailto:j.eldon at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Note: forwarded message attached.
> 
>     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>     From: "John Eldon" <jeldon at pulselink.net <mailto:jeldon at pulselink.net>>
>     To: <j.eldon at sbcglobal.net <mailto:j.eldon at sbcglobal.net>>
>     Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:50:50 -0800
>     Subject: FW: Leucadia Coast Highway 101 Streetscape
> 
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: John Eldon
>     Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:51 AM
>     To: 'Kathy Keehan'
>     Subject: Leucadia Coast Highway 101 Streetscape
> 
>     Greetings fellow cyclists,
> 
>     Some of you have asked me how to forward your comments and concerns
>     regarding the proposed streetscape project through the Leucadia portion
>     of Coast Highway 101. The lead contractor is M W Peltz, whose website,
>     http://www.mwpeltz.com/ , is unfortunately still under construction, but
>     their phone number and mailing address are provided. You may also
>     forward your concerns to me or to Kathy. I hope to attend the kickoff
>     workshop Thursday evening (6 to 8 p.m. at Oak Crest Middle School on
>     Balour Dr.), and I definitely plan to join the project walking tour
>     workshop Saturday morning (meet at City Hall at 8:30), which
>     unfortunately means I shall miss the grand opening of the long-awaited
>     rebuilt and expanded Encinitas library.
> 
>     The Leucadia Town Council, a longstanding private citizens' activist
>     group not to be confused with the official Encinitas City Council, has
>     presented a list of suggestions to M W Peltz, which unfortunately
>     includes the misguided possibility of a two-way duplex bike lane on the
>     east side of Highway 101. We have only 100 feet of right-of-way
>     available, including the sidewalk and the landscaped median, and the
>     local merchants understandably want to conserve or even to expand their
>     on-street parking. I am going to suggest something very similar to Coast
>     Highway 101 through downtown Encinitas, with four travel lanes, no
>     separate bike lanes, an enforced 25 or 30mph speed limit (down from 40),
>     and cyclists being encouraged to take the rightmost of the two lanes in
>     each direction. The alternative, I fear, will be a narrow door zone bike
>     lane or a segregated two-way facility with extremely awkward or
>     dangerous connections at Leucadia Bl. and La Costa Av.
> 
>     All the best,
> 
>     John E.
> 
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