[SDCBC] Speed limit setting, was Re: Friars Road Bike Lane Street Sweep

[Jim Baross]

I wonder if the "updating" is an example of the current standard for 
setting the speed limit at (or very near) the 85% of recorded motor 
vehicle speeds? This "anti-speed-trap" law/standard was enacted to 
protect motorists from predatory traffic ticketing and since, or also 
is embraced by traffic engineers as a "safety practice" believing 
that if motorists are traveling faster, it must be safe to do so... 
without giving sufficient weight to the hazards higher speeds add to 
those who might choose to use a bicycle and walk on those roads.  IMHO.  :-(

At 06:45 AM 5/11/2007, Gene Carman wrote:

>At one time the city owned a sweeper that fit that lane...  but it
>has since broken and the city has determined that the budget doesn't
>have room for a new sweeper.
>
>Meantime Friars road used to be a 45MPH road with fairly light
>traffic and few intersections...  but the valley has been fully
>developed, lots of new homes have been added along with driveways,
>and other intersections, and the speed on the road somehow has been
>"updated."  (to reflect not better conditions, but simply motorists
>moving faster) thus making the road decidedly less than bike friendly.
>
>At 05:59 AM 5/11/2007, Fulton Martin wrote:
> >If I'm not mistaken, the reason it gets so dirty is that a regular
> >street sweeper doesn't fit within it, so any sweeping has to be done
> >manually.
> >
> >Jim Baross wrote:
> > > That bermed off space is not a bike lane. It is a non-standard
> > > facility that should be removed, IMHO... or changed in some major
> > > manner that I cannot envision. There are many people however who feel
> > > safer behind the berm or on the sidewalk; they don't seem to notice
> > > or mind the inconveniences, but I certainly hope they realize the
> > > hazards they face at every driveway and intersection!
> >
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> >Fulton Martin
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