[SDCBC] want a job? Re: While we are busy citing cvc21200 and cvc21202...

[Jim Baross]

It seems to me that the bike registration process 
in San Diego and nearby cities could be handled 
much better by the Coalition if someone was to step up to:

1. research the possibility, the probably 
benefits to bicycle owners and the Coalition, and 
likely "costs" to the Coalition. This bike 
registration is a State program with limits 
(presently) on the amount that may be charged for the "service".
2. encourage the Mayor and/or City Council to 
supplement the broken (IMHO) system we have now 
by adding the someone (the Coalition) as a (or 
THE?) bike registration provider/administrator, 
sinc the Fire Dept, Police Dept and bike shops 
aren't making it work (again IMHO).
3. submit and win a proposal/contract to provide 
service - service might include:
   a. partial - stock, sell registrations, and 
send into police dept (who are supposed to - are 
they - keep records). We'd only supplement the current processes.
   b. full - administer the program; stock, sell, 
record data, retrieve data and cross-reference 
with found bikes, notify previously register 
owners of found bikes, provide info to potential 
buyers of a bike about the registered previous owner if any.

This would be a job, part time, but not something 
I'd expect to go unpaid. The trick is that I 
don't know how the State limited price for 
registration could provide enough income to 
enable a "professional" program.... unless 
supported by the City (a city with few 
discretionary funds) or other institution (school 
district, university, health org, grant?).

The only presently successfully operating bicycle 
registration program that I know of in this 
State, operated under the State system, is at 
Univ of Calif. at Davis. If anyone is interested 
in pursuing this, I can put you in touch with 
that program's administrator, David T., with little effort.

Jim (fix it, change it, or drop the requirement) Baross

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>From: "Pauline Callahan" <zpcallahan at wildmail.com>
>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:32:18 -0700
>
>I just had a conversation with a cyclist who 
>said he went to several bike shops and they 
>didn't have the rigistration forms.  He said he 
>ended up in Pacific Baech somewhere.  Action 
>Cyclery in Scripts Ranch/Mira Mesa area has 
>registrations available.  Also, there is a "bike 
>fix" community outreach going on next Saturday, 
>March 17 in Tierra Santa (I don't have the exact 
>address, but it is at a church on Tierra Santa 
>Blvd and there are signs) and they will register your bike for free.
>
>---- Begin Original Message ----
>  From: Fulton Martin <public at exwis.com>
>Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:45:42 -0700
>To: sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
>Subject: Re: [SDCBC] While we are busy citing cvc21200 and cvc21202...
>
>I used to register my bicycles regularly, every two (?) years, until I
>got my first recumbent and went to the local fire station, where I was
>told they wouldn't be doing it anymore. I don't recall them saying the
>function was being transferred to retailers, but could be...
>
>Even *if* retailers are doing it, how willing are they to register a
>bicycle "upon the request of the owner" if the bicycle wasn't purchased
>at their shop? (Bought my last one out-of-state.)
>
>Gene Carman wrote:
> > Has anyone noticed that part of cvc21200 cites cvc39000?
> >
> > http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21200.htm
> >
> > 21200.   (a) Every person riding a bicycle upon a highway has all the
> > rights and is subject to all the provisions applicable to the driver of
> > a vehicle by this division, including, but not limited to, provisions
> > concerning driving under the influence of alcoholic beverages or drugs,
> > and by Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000), Section 27400,
> > Division 16.7 (*commencing with Section 39000*), Division 17 (commencing
> > with Section 40000.1), and Division 18 (commencing with Section 42000),
> > except those provisions which by their very nature can have no application.
> >
> >
> > http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d16_7/vc39001.htm
> >
> > 39001.   (a) The department shall procure and distribute bicycle license
> > indicia and registration forms to all counties and cities which have
> > adopted a bicycle licensing ordinance or resolution. Those counties and
> > cities shall issue the indicia and registration form to the owner of any
> > new bicycle, and may, upon request of the owner, issue an indicia and
> > registration form to the owner of any bicycle which complies with
> > Section 39007.
> >
> > The department shall charge and collect a fee, not to exceed the cost of
> > procuring and distributing the license indicia and registration form,
> > for each bicycle license indicia and registration form issued. All fees
> > collected pursuant to this section shall be deposited in the Motor
> > Vehicle Account in the State Transportation Fund. Those fees are hereby
> > continuously appropriated from the account for use by the department to
> > defray costs to procure and distribute the bicycle license indicia and
> > registration forms.
> >
> > So what is San Diego's policy on license and registration of
> > bicycles...  assuming they have "adopted a bicycle licensing ordinance
> > or resolution?"  How many of us are in compliance with the local law,
> > should we for instance be pulled over.
> >
> > If we are quick to cite cvc21200 and cvc21202, should we not also be in
> > compliance with SDMC34.02?
> >
> > 
> http://clerkdoc.sannet.gov/legtrain/mc/MuniCodeChapter03/Ch03Art04Division00
> >
> >
> > *§34.02 Bicycle License Required
> > *Except as provided by Section 34.09 of this article, it is unlawful for
> > any person to operate a bicycle upon any 
> public street, alley, sidewalk, highway, or
> > other public property within the jurisdiction 
> of The City of San Diego without first
> > obtaining a license issued by said City. 
> Bicycle retailers are authorized and
> > directed to issue, upon written application, 
> a bicycle license, to any person residing
> > within the City of San Diego. Bicycle 
> retailers issuing licenses will charge a fee pursuant
> > to section 34.02. Fees collected in 
> accordance with section 34.02 shall be sent to
> > the San Diego Fire Department. *Bicycle 
> retailers will purchase bicycle licenses and
> > stickers from the San Diego Fire Department.* 
> The San Diego Fire Department will return $1
> > of the $2 license fees collected to bicycle 
> retailers upon return of a completed
> > registration form. License applicants who 
> reside outside the City of San Diego shall
> > be referred to their respective city or 
> jurisdiction of residency. Any bicycle not
> > subject to the provisions of this article may 
> be licensed upon the request of the owner.
> >
> > How many of you are in compliance?