[SDCBC] ignoring a detour & bike lane closed signs

Robert Leone rob_leone at earthlink.net
Sun Jun 10 18:20:23 EDT 2007


Dear Kathy:
	Hi!

Kathy Keehan wrote:
SNIP

> The only places I’m currently aware of that have the word ‘detour’ for 
> bicyclists are on freeway locations that are closed to bicyclists, such 
> as on I15 between Via Rancho Parkway and Center City Parkway, or on Otay 
> Mesa Road where it becomes 905. In the places where we retain street 
> access, we try to get the jurisdictions to put up ‘bike alternate’ signs 
> rather than ‘bike detour’ signs. It’s still not a good solution, since 
> motorists will still think bicyclists are required to take the 
> alternate, but they feel they need to alert bicyclists that there might 
> be an alternate route that avoids the construction should they choose to 
> take it.

There are "Detour" signs, famously, on the SR-56 Bike Path and 
irritatingly on Telegraph Canyon Road and (I think) Otay Lakes Road in 
Chula Vista. The one on Otay Lakes eastbound is especially irriating 
because the "Detour" is uphill, but as you go past that detour point you 
see no construction or other reason to make a detour on a bike. At 
least, that was the situation a couple of months back.
SNIP
The counter
> argument has been made in the engineering/construction community that 
> selective restrictions are used quite often (no trucks over 2 tons, 
> local traffic only, etc) and that they should have the option to 
> restrict bicyclists from using a road under construction ‘for your own 
> safety.”

SNIP
Under what conditions are juristictions or engineers allowed the 
judegement to post "No Trucks over 2 Tons?" I thought (but have no CVC 
or case law citation) such judgements (where allowed under CVC 21, our 
favorite "mo local homegrown surprise bike restrictions" law) were based 
on the impaasability of such vehicles or the potential harm they'd cause 
  other road users, or the threat to the road they'd pose (for example, 
the no petroleum tanker rule on the Coronado Bridge). If you've got a 
road so bad it's impassble to bicycles, or one so pedestrian-covered 
you're banning bikes becuase of the harm they could cause other road 
users, then why would you allow CARS, TRUCKS or MOTORCYCLES? It's sort 
of like banning wheelchairs so you don't have to put handholds in the 
bathroom stalls.

Robert Leone



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