[SDCBC] Torrey Pines Trails plan

Wed Jan 24 20:05:47 EST 2007

Given that eliminating downhill cycling is apparently one of their goals:

The Reserve road is becoming increasingly unsafe as greater numbers of
vehicles, hikers, joggers, and bicyclists compete for space on the
road. Cyclists
are
particularly vulnerable to accidents when they travel down the Reserve road
at high speeds.

I don't think they meant to allow for downhill cycling in either 10.2.1 or
10.2.2.

If they're closing access to private vehicles, we are lucky to get any
access.

I don't know if there are many people who drive their bikes to the park just
to go up and down the hill inside the park, or how many people do clockwise
loops (up TP Rd, down through the park).  Those are the ones that would be
most affected by any plan that eliminates downhill cycling since  I don't
think northbound cyclists use the cumbersome detour through the park
(requiring a left turn to get in at the top and left turn to get out at the
bottom) very often.

It is a fun twisty descent though.  Shame to lose it if there is a way to
save it.

Serge

On 1/24/07, Kathy Keehan <execdir at sdcbc.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Gene,
> The plan is not aimed only at bikes, but bikes are the only ones called
> out
> to be allowed access only in one direction, at least in Guideline 10.2.1
> (page 30 of the adobe file). The wording isn't particularly clear as to
> whether or not this means that bicyclists would be able to use the other
> side of the reserve road going downhill, or if bikes would be required to
> use Torrey Pines Road/Coast Highway for the downhill trip.
> I'm thinking this would be an interesting conversation at the public
> meeting...
>
> 10.2.1 Develop and implement a transportation/trail plan for the Reserve
> road. The overall
> goal should be to provide a viable alternative transportation system to
> and
> from the
> visitor center while offering safer access for people on foot or bike.
> Consider the
> option of closing the Reserve road to public vehicles (except emergency
> and
> CSP
> vehicles) and establishing a transport system for Reserve visitors and
> volunteers. In
> addition, consider the designation of one lane of the Reserve road to an
> official trail
> for hikers, joggers, and bicyclists and limiting bicycle access to one
> direction (uphill).
>
> Kathy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Carman [mailto:gcarman at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:29 PM
> To: Kathy Keehan; Sdcbc
> Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Torrey Pines Trails plan
>
>
> But this plan is not aimed at bikes only...  one
> of their ideas is to make the narrow road one
> way...  which would effect all vehicle users in the same manner.
>
> The restrictions would not be aimed at bikes only.
>
> At 12:35 PM 1/24/2007, Kathy Keehan wrote:
> >The plan calls for potentially restricting bike traffic to uphill only on
> >the park road up the hill...
> >Kathy
> >
> >To: Stakeholders, User Groups, Trails Organizations, Public Entities
> >
> >
> >RE: Public Meeting Announcement  Draft Trails Management Plan for Torrey
> >Pines State Reserve
> >
> >
> >Dear Trails Enthusiast,
> >
> >
> >California State Parks invites you to attend the upcoming Public Meeting
> for
> >the Torrey Pines State Reserve  Draft Trails Management Plan.   The
> purpose
> >of the meeting will be to introduce the Plan, answer your questions, and
> >hear your comments regarding the recommendations of the Plan.
> >
> >
> >
> >February 6, 2007
> >
> >6:00 PM  8:00 PM
> >
> >Lodge at Torrey Pines (at golf course)
> >
> >11480 North Torrey Pines Road
> >
> >La Jolla, Ca 92037
> >
> >Braun Room
> >
> >
> >
> >The Draft Trails Management Plan establishes goals for the overall trail
> >system as well as guidelines for appropriate trail uses, trail closures
> and
> >reroutes, trail maintenance and repair activities, trail aesthetics, and
> a
> >trail monitoring system.  The Plan defines trail-specific guidelines for
> >individual trails as well as recommended future planning efforts that are
> >beyond the scope of the Plan.
> >
> >
> >
> >The Draft Trails Management Plan can be viewed on-line at
> >http://www.torreypines.org
> >
> >
> >
> >Comments and questions regarding the public meeting or Plan can be
> directed
> >to:
> >
> >
> >
> >Bob Patterson
> >
> >Project Manager
> >
> >California State Parks
> >
> >San Diego Coast District
> >
> >4477 Pacific Highway
> >
> >San Diego, CA 92110
> >
> >bpatters at parks.ca.gov
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Thank you for your participation,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Bob Patterson, RLA #3555
> >
> >Associate Landscape Architect
> >
> >San Diego Coast District
> >
> >  4477 Pacific Highway
> >
> >                  San Diego, CA 92110
> >
> >  P (619) 220-5321
> >
> >  F (619) 688-3229
> >
> >  bpatters at parks.ca.gov
> >
> >
> >
> >-----------------------------------
> >Kathy Keehan
> >Executive Director
> >San Diego County Bicycle Coalition
> >P.O. Box 34544
> >San Diego, CA 92163
> >858.487.6063
> >execdir at sdcbc.org <mailto:execdir at sdcbc.org>
> >
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