[SDCBC] Is this sign approved?
Jim Baross
JimBaross at cox.net
Tue Feb 20 12:42:17 EST 2007
CABO has two district reps splitting that
CalTrans district. I'll forward to Jean Anderson and Leo Jed.
It might be that there could be a reasonable
justification for having that sign up... but I
can't think of one at the moment.
Did you note and would you provide a more exact location for the sign?
At 08:47 AM 2/20/2007, Kenneth King wrote:
>Right. SLO County needs to be informed of that.
>Which Bike Coalition should handle that with the county?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bicyclist [mailto:bikes.alot at cox.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:10 AM
>To: kking002 at san.rr.com; sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
>Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Is this sign approved?
>
>The white one is not an approved sign. There is
>no section of CVC 21202 requiring single file bicycling.
>
>Try this from
>http://www.vcbike.org/bikelaw/bikelaw.htm#_C._Riding_Single by Alan Wachtel.
>
>
>
>C. Riding Single File or Two or More Abreast
>
>
>
>Nothing in California law explicitly requires
>bicyclists to ride single file or prevents them
>from riding two or more abreast, as bicyclists
>often do for social reasons.[79] Nonetheless,
>some police officers believe that the slow
>bicycle rule does so implicitly, because the
>bicyclist on the left is not riding as close as
>practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of
>the roadway. This opinion is also expressed in
>a 1975 Attorney Generals letter of advice to
>the Statewide Bicycle Committee, without further elaboration.[80]
>
>This interpretation lacks reason, common sense,
>and harmony.[81] In the strictest sense, the
>bicyclist on the left cannot ride farther to the
>right, because of the presence of the bicyclist
>on the right. In an analogous situation, on a
>road that carries three lanes of traffic in the
>same direction, it would surely be considered
>proper for two slower motor vehicles to travel
>abreast in the two right-hand lanes, leaving the
>left-hand lane open for faster traffic to pass.
>Riding two abreast is expressly permitted by
>both the slow bicycle rule and the bike-lane
>rule when one bicyclist is passing another, even
>if both are slower than other traffic. Finally,
>no law currently prevents a car and a bicycle,
>regardless of speed, from traveling abreast in a
>single lane wide enough to allow it.[82] It is
>therefore illogical to single out two bicycles side by side.
>
>If the slow bicycle rule is to be applied to the
>case of two cyclists side by side, it must meet
>the tests described under What Constitutes a
>Violation? supra. Clearly the rule cannot apply
>unless both cyclists are traveling slower than
>other traffic; if not, they may ride two or more
>abreast. Nor does the slow bicycle rule apply in
>a narrow lane, so riding two or more abreast is
>lawful there. The slow bicycle rule should apply
>only when faster traffic is unable to overtake
>and pass.[83] If traffic can pass by changing
>lanes, or if it could not pass even if the
>bicyclists were riding single file, there should
>be no violation. If bicyclists ride two or more
>abreast, but revert to single file to allow
>following traffic to overtake, again there should be no violation.
>
>Regardless of how the slow bicycle rule is
>interpreted, bicyclists may lawfully ride two or
>more abreast on the shoulder, because the
>shoulder is not part of the roadway, and
>therefore not subject to the slow bicycle
>rule.[84] Likewise, bicyclists may ride abreast,
>one on the roadway and one or more on the
>shoulder, provided that the one on the roadway
>observes the slow bicycle rule, if
>applicable.[85] Finally, bicyclists may ride two
>or more abreast in a bike lane; the special
>bike-lane rule, if applicable, requires at most
>that they ride within the bike lane, without
>specifying any particular position in it.
>
>[81]. For exactly the same reason, the Attorney
>General found in id. that bicyclists could
>legally make a left turn from a left-turn lane
>or pocket, overtake and pass to the left of a
>slower vehicle, or move away from the right-hand
>curb or edge to avoid hazards in the roadway,
>even though Cal. Veh. Code § 21202 at that time
>contained no such explicit exceptions.
>
>[82]. If such a law were enacted, it would
>disrupt traffic flow unnecessarily by preventing
>a motorist from passing a bicyclist in a lane
>wide enough to permit passing to be done safely.
>
>[83]. See Practicable is a Flexible Term
>Favorable to Bicyclists and What Constitutes a Violation? supra.
>
>[84]. Bicyclists May Ride on the Shoulder
>infra demonstrates that riding on the shoulder is lawful per se.
>
>[85]. The slow bicycle rule does not apply to the bicyclist on the shoulder.
>
>
>At 07:40 AM 2/20/2007, Kenneth King wrote:
>>This is a San Luis Obispo sign. I don't think I
>>have seen one like it before; approved by CALTRANS?
>>Ken
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