[SDCBC] Maintenance of Bikeways, Sidewalks, Roadways
Jim Baross
JimBaross at cox.net
Sun Dec 23 22:48:14 EST 2007
At 05:59 PM 12/23/2007, jwstump at cox.net wrote:
>Jim
>
>Do you know the rules for maintenance of path of travel?
No, I do not... and based on court rulings to date, I'd expect that
there are none that apply to Bike Paths... being considered as "trails" :-(
>I know we require developers to maintain a sidewalk if construction
>is occurring. Road way construction results in detours and
>sometimes temporary roads. What are the rules for the different
>classes of bikeways?
We/SDCBC has maintained successfully that if a roadway is open to
motor vehicle use, it shall be open for bicycling. During
construction when a bike lane is closed we've gotten additional signs.
There is a somewhat inadequate section of the Calif Traffic Manual
that speaks to accommodating bicycling and walking in or around
construction zones.
>Has any anyone search the Vehicle or Streets & Highway Codes? Maybe
>such maintenance of path of travel should be part of the legislative agenda?
Maybe not necessarily a legislative action, but administrative
through Caltrans... yet another thing to do in the new year!
>All the best & Happy Holidays
>John Stump
>---- Jim Baross <JimBaross at cox.net> wrote:
>
>=============
>I suggest that those of you who use, used or would use the closed
>section contact your City Councilmember and/or the Mayor with maybe a
>complaint, but certainly with a request for alternative routing
>development and info.
>
>Jim (wheels that squeak get more grease) Baross
>
>At 07:49 AM 12/23/2007, Dave White wrote:
> >Thanks Gene. For that long of a closure, and the chances for
> >"seat-of-the-pants" alternate routes to be rather dicey, it would seem
> >in both the City's and cyclists best interests for temporary Bike
> >Detour signs to be posted to define the best alternate route - just as
> >was done at places like 56 BP at Carmel Mtn Rd/Azuaga and at the 56 BP
> >pond crossing (still flooded 18 months after "slimy sunday"). This is
> >a Pedal to the Park route, so we will monitor progress prior to Stage
> >3, May 25th.
> >Dave White
> >
> >On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Gene Carman wrote:
> >
> > > Bike paths along the south eastern edge and eastern edge of Mission
> > > Bay are closed until May 2008. Paths from the intersection of Fiesta
> > > Island Drive and East Mission Bay drive on around and parallel to Sea
> > > World Drive along and past Sea World have been closed until May 2008
> > > according to the signs posted on the chain link fences surrounding
> > > the paths. The paths are closed for future improvement... pavement
> > > repairs and lighting are the cited reasons.
> > >
> > > For cyclists wishing to use a path to go to Ocean Beach, I suggest
> > > taking Sea World Drive to South Shores Park (the entrance to the boat
> > > launch area just east of Sea World) and crossing Sea World Drive to
> > > the San Diego River shared road, this connects to the path at the
> > > Sunset Cliff Blvd Bridge... this will allow you to bypass the 50MPH
> > > intersections and sweeping exit ramps of the "mixmaster" of Sea World
> > > Drive, Sunset Cliffs and West Mission Bay drive where you would
> > > otherwise have to take the lane in fast traffic to avoid being
> > > "swept" down one of exit roads to destinations beyond.
> > >
> > > No alternatives are offered at the posted Closed Path
> > > signs... typical of the non transportation attitude of San Diego and
> > > California, with regard to Bike Paths... if these were true
> > > transportation corridors, road closure signs would be posted, along
> > > with cones, and detours... but that is not the case, as bikes are
> > > just "toys for recreation" in the eyes of local government.
> > >
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