[SDCBC] Is the paint part of the bike lane?

[Neal Henderson]

Hello Kathy and All,

 

Bike lane marking IN or OUT of the bike lane?

 

I was informed that basketball would be a better reference for OUT as soccer
ball is IN on line.

 

Maybe it is different in each state, I am in California. Only a small wager
is involved. 

After some Google searching I turned up the following: 

 
<https://www.nysdot.gov/portal/page/portal/divisions/engineering/design/dqab
/hdm/hdm-repository/chapt_17.pdf>
https://www.nysdot.gov/portal/page/portal/divisions/engineering/design/dqab/
hdm/hdm-repository/chapt_17.pdf seems to show the lane is measured like auto
traffic lane lines and each lane is measured to the CENTERLINE of the
markings.

 

So I guess it is a push and the answer is neither IN nor OUT ...... I get
only half of the line for my bike and the other half goes to the motorist.
I did not find a specific references in the Federal references:
http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/PED_BIKE/univcourse/swtoc.htm  or
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/legsregs/directives/fapg/cfr0652.htm  or
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/kno-tutintro.html 

 


Perhaps there is a legal interpretation of the line (that is different from
an engineering construction design spec) that comes into play when an
accident is involved. 

Cheers, 

Neal

 

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From: Kathy Keehan [mailto:execdir at sdcbc.org] 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:17
To: nealhe at cox.net; sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
Subject: re: Is the paint part of the bike lane? 

 

Ok, you've stumped me. I have no idea whether or not the line is technically
in the lane or not. If I had to guess, I'd say that the line is not part of
the lane (otherwise it would be hard to decide WHICH lane the paint belongs
to - the bike lane or the rightmost regular lane?). If anyone has some other
information, please let me know so I can store it in my vast reserves of
bicycle trivia!

Kathy

 

From: Neal Henderson [mailto:nealhe at cox.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:58 PM
To: 'Kathy Keehan'
Cc: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org
Subject: RE: [SDCBC] FW: Mayor Begins Managed Competition Assessments

 

Hello Kathy,

 

As I was riding by bike today a trivia question came up - is the line that
delineates the bicycle lane on the side of the road and approaching
intersections IN or OUT of the bike lane?

 

For example if my front wheel was a tennis ball it would be in the bike lane
- but if my front wheel was a soccer ball it would be out of the bike lane.

 

Cheers,

 

Neal

 

 

 

Interesting to note that 'Pavement Markings and Signs', a $4.6 million per
year program, will be one of the functions considered for managed
competition. This will definitely impact cyclists, and we'll have to keep an
eye out to make sure that any outsourcing proposal includes guarantees that
bicyclists needs will be included and that they will be designed and
implemented correctly. 

Kathy

 

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