From jwstump at cox.net  Sat Dec  1 01:43:37 2007
From: jwstump at cox.net (jwstump at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:43:37 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] New SANDAG map not ready for Prime Time
In-Reply-To: <47502E03.6010603@mvps.org>
Message-ID: <20071201014337.MSQIZ.115147.root@fed1wml08.mgt.cox.net>

Mr. Firestone,

What does SANDAG say about your suggestions?

All the best
John Stump

---- Omar Firestone <Omar at mvps.org> wrote: 

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From stephanvance at cox.net  Sat Dec  1 11:52:34 2007
From: stephanvance at cox.net (Stephan Vance)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 08:52:34 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] New SANDAG map not ready for Prime Time
In-Reply-To: <47502E03.6010603@mvps.org>
References: <47502E03.6010603@mvps.org>
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Omar,

 

I checked with the bike map guy at RideLink, and he told me some of the maps
got folded before the ink was completely dried, so they were delivered with
the pages fused together. If you put the map in your bag without first
unfolding it, that could be the reason you found the pages stuck together. 

 

Stephan Vance

 

  _____  

From: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org [mailto:sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org]
On Behalf Of Omar Firestone
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 7:37 AM
To: sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
Subject: [SDCBC] New SANDAG map not ready for Prime Time

 

When the new SD Region Bike Map was released a few months ago, I too thought
the polyart synthetic paper was a vast improvement that would stand up to
the rigors of repeated use, and hours jostling in a  bag with tools, food
etc.  I put one in each of my bikes, assuming I was covered,
cartographically, should my legs' wanderlust take  me to parts unknown.

To my chagrin ("Excuse me mister, can you tell how to get back to ...") I
have discovered that my handlebar bag posseses the right combination of
heat/moisture/pressure/something to (chemically?) "weld" the pages together
in places, rendering the map unusable.  Until they come up with something
better, "unfolding and repacking the map" will now be part of my maintenance
routine.

Omar Firestone

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From execdir at sdcbc.org  Sat Dec  1 14:51:43 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:51:43 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] FW: Mayor Begins Managed Competition Assessments
Message-ID: <008b01c83453$99986350$ccc929f0$@org>

Interesting to note that 'Pavement Markings and Signs', a $4.6 million per
year program, will be one of the functions considered for managed
competition. This will definitely impact cyclists, and we'll have to keep an
eye out to make sure that any outsourcing proposal includes guarantees that
bicyclists needs will be included and that they will be designed and
implemented correctly. 

Kathy

 

From: Jerry Sanders [mailto:JerrySanders at sandiego.gov] 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 2:10 PM
To: execdir at sdcbc.org
Subject: Mayor Begins Managed Competition Assessments

 

	
	
	

 


	

This morning I am announced 16 City functions that will begin the first step
in the voter-approved managed competition process. These functions are
concentrated in two departments and include over 560 positions and have a
combined budget of more than $120 million.

 

As approved by the voters last November, managed competition has become an
integral part of the overall reform effort underway at the City. Voters were
clear in their support for managed competition and I hope that my
announcement today will serve to reaffirm my commitment to moving it forward
in the City.

 

The pre-competition assessment process for these functions will be conducted
over the next few months. Once the assessments are complete, I will be
provided with a report of findings giving me the information I need to
recommend whether a given function can and should move forward in the
managed competition process.

 

Once a function is chosen to move forward in the managed competition process
we will begin to prepare all of the information and materials necessary to
invite outside bids. City employee proposal teams will be established,
Requests for Proposals will be issued and the Managed Competition
Independent Review Board will begin to offer its assistance in analyzing
which proposal will provide the best value for the City.

 

The Independent Review Board is scheduled for Council confirmation this
coming Tuesday. The seven members of the Board include a representative for
the City Council and the Independent Budget Analyst. Mary Lewis, the City's
Financial Management Director will represent the Auditor and Comptroller and
Debra Fischle-Faulk, the City's Director of Administrative Services will be
my representative to the IRB.

 

Desa Burton, Charles Kim, Faye Wilson and Murray Galinson are all very
accomplished members of the San Diego community and have been nominated to
fill out the remainder of the board's positions. I think they are going to
give us a good - independent - perspective of the quality of bids we receive
in the competition process.

 

Today marks the beginning of what I intend to be a regular series of
assessments and progress toward a competitive bidding process for those City
functions found eligible and appropriate for competition.

 

I know that some have expressed concern about the pace we've taken for
implementing managed competition. As I have said before, we have approached
this in a thoughtful and deliberate way because it is intended to have a
lasting impact on our business practices. We have made certain that we are
following the process intended by the voters and have done everything
reasonable to accommodate the interests of union leaders who have seemed
intent on delaying this effort at every possible point.

 

We are moving forward and I will be very interested in receiving the report
of findings coming from these pre-competition assessments.

 

Use the link below to access the managed competition fact sheet:

 

http://www.sandiego.gov/mayor/pdf/071130factsheet.pdf
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From jwstump at cox.net  Sat Dec  1 22:32:13 2007
From: jwstump at cox.net (jwstump at cox.net)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:32:13 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Opportunity For Bikes??
In-Reply-To: <008b01c83453$99986350$ccc929f0$@org>
Message-ID: <20071201223213.UKCNZ.120694.root@fed1wml08.mgt.cox.net>

The Mayor's proposal to study wheither City Work could be done better by the private sector could mean more than preserving the quality of what bikes already have.

Traffic signals maintenance; Street maintenance; and Sidewalk maintenance could be improved for bike benefit.  The Pavement markings and signs work could follow the lead of San Francisco which does not mark pavement for cars but rater marks it for the benefit of public transit.

I know if Ms. K is watching this big item then we will fave a watchdogs careful eye on thi item.

Below is the study list


Function (Department)                                    # ofPositions   Budget Amount
Bindery and reproduction services (General Services) 14 $ 2,242,142
Container delivery services (Environmental Services) 6 $ 1,208,420
Dead animal pick-up (Environmental Services) 1 $ 165,934
Disposal operations (Environmental Services) 37 $ 7,670,654
Fee booth operations (Environmental Services) 19 $ 1,781,564
Graphic design (General Services) 6 $ 509,007
Greenery compost facility operations (Environmental Services) 14 $ 2,593,786
Landfill monitoring and maintenance (Environmental Services) 11 $ 2,342,742
Pavement markings and signs (General Services) 41 $ 4,638,516
Sidewalk maintenance (General Services) 19 $ 3,033,048
Solid waste collection services (Environmental Services) 229 $ 52,891,714
Storm drains maintenance (General Services) 38 $ 14,174,287
Street lights maintenance (General Services) 24 $ 5,809,178
Street maintenance (General Services) 56 $ 8,527,430
Street sweeping (General Services) 21 $ 5,792,572
Traffic signals maintenance (Gerneal Services) 26 $ 6,668,627
                                                                    TOTAL 562 $120,049,621

All the best
John Stump


---- Kathy Keehan <execdir at sdcbc.org> wrote: 

=============
Interesting to note that 'Pavement Markings and Signs', a $4.6 million per
year program, will be one of the functions considered for managed
competition. This will definitely impact cyclists, and we'll have to keep an
eye out to make sure that any outsourcing proposal includes guarantees that
bicyclists needs will be included and that they will be designed and
implemented correctly. 

Kathy

 

From: Jerry Sanders [mailto:JerrySanders at sandiego.gov] 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 2:10 PM
To: execdir at sdcbc.org
Subject: Mayor Begins Managed Competition Assessments

 

	
	
	

 


	

This morning I am announced 16 City functions that will begin the first step
in the voter-approved managed competition process. These functions are
concentrated in two departments and include over 560 positions and have a
combined budget of more than $120 million.

 

As approved by the voters last November, managed competition has become an
integral part of the overall reform effort underway at the City. Voters were
clear in their support for managed competition and I hope that my
announcement today will serve to reaffirm my commitment to moving it forward
in the City.

 

The pre-competition assessment process for these functions will be conducted
over the next few months. Once the assessments are complete, I will be
provided with a report of findings giving me the information I need to
recommend whether a given function can and should move forward in the
managed competition process.

 

Once a function is chosen to move forward in the managed competition process
we will begin to prepare all of the information and materials necessary to
invite outside bids. City employee proposal teams will be established,
Requests for Proposals will be issued and the Managed Competition
Independent Review Board will begin to offer its assistance in analyzing
which proposal will provide the best value for the City.

 

The Independent Review Board is scheduled for Council confirmation this
coming Tuesday. The seven members of the Board include a representative for
the City Council and the Independent Budget Analyst. Mary Lewis, the City's
Financial Management Director will represent the Auditor and Comptroller and
Debra Fischle-Faulk, the City's Director of Administrative Services will be
my representative to the IRB.

 

Desa Burton, Charles Kim, Faye Wilson and Murray Galinson are all very
accomplished members of the San Diego community and have been nominated to
fill out the remainder of the board's positions. I think they are going to
give us a good - independent - perspective of the quality of bids we receive
in the competition process.

 

Today marks the beginning of what I intend to be a regular series of
assessments and progress toward a competitive bidding process for those City
functions found eligible and appropriate for competition.

 

I know that some have expressed concern about the pace we've taken for
implementing managed competition. As I have said before, we have approached
this in a thoughtful and deliberate way because it is intended to have a
lasting impact on our business practices. We have made certain that we are
following the process intended by the voters and have done everything
reasonable to accommodate the interests of union leaders who have seemed
intent on delaying this effort at every possible point.

 

We are moving forward and I will be very interested in receiving the report
of findings coming from these pre-competition assessments.

 

Use the link below to access the managed competition fact sheet:

 

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From sdmcgale at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  2 02:34:46 2007
From: sdmcgale at yahoo.com (Gale Chan)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 23:34:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SDCBC] Bike Moves - how about YOU?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071129120944.03daba88@cox.net>
Message-ID: <316714.34488.qm@web55805.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Groceries, yes; sofas (or even loveseats :-) ), no.

I think the reason few cyclists in San Diego haul stuff is the
terrain is so un-flat.  In my bike safety class last year which
was held in Rancho Bernardo (thanks again, Kathy!), I'd say over
2/3 of the participants had difficulty with the terrain.

-- Gale Chan


--- Jim Baross <JimBaross at cox.net> wrote:

> Ok, no responses from this SDCBC list (yet).... :-(
> 
> Is this list only populated with bicyclists who don't ever carry 
> anything bulky by bike?... even groceries?
> 
> I am seriously trying to find others who have equipment and interest 
> in doing a Bike Move of some sort... even once.
> 
> So, do you have a bike that can carry stuff, a bike trailer, 
> side-car, longboy or other type of bike for hauling stuff?
> Would you be willing to participate and/or to loan you equipment to 
> someone who would?
> I'm compiling a list of you who do - names, email and what you have 
> (no addresses for potential theft excursions!). I have several "hits" 
> from the Critical Mass folks list, now how about you?
> 
> Next I'd try to find someone or organization planning a local move - 
> relatively easy to bike - of stuff that the available equipment and 
> people could move... possibly with some filming. For someone moving? 
> Maybe for the SDBC Christmas Toy Ride? Maybe to/from the next 
> Velodrome swap meet to deliver and/or take out stuff for the Bike 
> Kitchen's use? For Bike to Work Day, May 16th, 2008? Maybe for a 
> parade contingent of bicycling gear... or carrying a band if we got a 
> big enough trailer? Or maybe you have some ideas?
> 
> Why? 'Cause it would be fun. 'Cause it would certainly be a "cleaner" 
> move. 'Cause it would make a point that our sustainable transpo 
> cool-mode efforts can replace some relatively earth-warming modes.
> 
> Wanna help?
> 
> Jim (has muscle, will travel) Baross
> 
> At 06:25 PM 11/26/2007, Jim Baross wrote:
> >So, how many bikes and bicyclists could San Diego bring out for a
> >"bike move"? Looks like fun!
> >
> >Who else has bikes and/or trailers for hauling stuff?
> >
> >I have a few delta three-wheelers w/baskets front and rear, and one
> >bike trailer (the one-wheel kind).
> >
> > >Subject: [LCI Group] Bike Move
> > >From: Safe Route <dan at safe-route.org>
> > >
> > >ON THE MOVE
> > >The following link takes you to a very cool video filmed in Portland,
> > >Oregon. It shows a herd of bicyclists helping a woman move her
> > >household goods from one abode to another. The riders can be seen
> > >hauling items as large as couches and a boat (maybe).
> > >http://tinyurl.com/355ezo
> >
> >
> >
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From execdir at sdcbc.org  Sun Dec  2 14:16:39 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:16:39 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Is the paint part of the bike lane?
In-Reply-To: <000001c83497$8231b1a0$6501a8c0@NealDesk>
References: <008b01c83453$99986350$ccc929f0$@org>
	<000001c83497$8231b1a0$6501a8c0@NealDesk>
Message-ID: <005c01c83517$dd7dfac0$9879f040$@org>

Ok, you've stumped me. I have no idea whether or not the line is technically
in the lane or not. If I had to guess, I'd say that the line is not part of
the lane (otherwise it would be hard to decide WHICH lane the paint belongs
to - the bike lane or the rightmost regular lane?). If anyone has some other
information, please let me know so I can store it in my vast reserves of
bicycle trivia!

Kathy

 

From: Neal Henderson [mailto:nealhe at cox.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:58 PM
To: 'Kathy Keehan'
Cc: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org
Subject: RE: [SDCBC] FW: Mayor Begins Managed Competition Assessments

 

Hello Kathy,

 

As I was riding by bike today a trivia question came up - is the line that
delineates the bicycle lane on the side of the road and approaching
intersections IN or OUT of the bike lane?

 

For example if my front wheel was a tennis ball it would be in the bike lane
- but if my front wheel was a soccer ball it would be out of the bike lane.

 

Cheers,

 

Neal

 

 

 

Interesting to note that 'Pavement Markings and Signs', a $4.6 million per
year program, will be one of the functions considered for managed
competition. This will definitely impact cyclists, and we'll have to keep an
eye out to make sure that any outsourcing proposal includes guarantees that
bicyclists needs will be included and that they will be designed and
implemented correctly. 

Kathy

 

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From jwstump at cox.net  Sun Dec  2 14:59:27 2007
From: jwstump at cox.net (jwstump at cox.net)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:59:27 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Depends on Who is King of the Road
In-Reply-To: <005c01c83517$dd7dfac0$9879f040$@org>
Message-ID: <20071202145927.W4VUV.123950.root@fed1wml08.mgt.cox.net>

Friends,,

We need to start thinking about roads as transportation systems not car versus bike  territory.

Otherwise, the right of way will belong to the biggest bully on the road.  In a democracy we should be first thinking about protecting the rights of the minority and weakest.  Taking this approach he pedestrian always has a reasonable right to the road.

All the best
Stump

---- Kathy Keehan <execdir at sdcbc.org> wrote: 

=============
Ok, you've stumped me. I have no idea whether or not the line is technically
in the lane or not. If I had to guess, I'd say that the line is not part of
the lane (otherwise it would be hard to decide WHICH lane the paint belongs
to - the bike lane or the rightmost regular lane?). If anyone has some other
information, please let me know so I can store it in my vast reserves of
bicycle trivia!

Kathy

 

From: Neal Henderson [mailto:nealhe at cox.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:58 PM
To: 'Kathy Keehan'
Cc: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org
Subject: RE: [SDCBC] FW: Mayor Begins Managed Competition Assessments

 

Hello Kathy,

 

As I was riding by bike today a trivia question came up - is the line that
delineates the bicycle lane on the side of the road and approaching
intersections IN or OUT of the bike lane?

 

For example if my front wheel was a tennis ball it would be in the bike lane
- but if my front wheel was a soccer ball it would be out of the bike lane.

 

Cheers,

 

Neal

 

 

 

Interesting to note that 'Pavement Markings and Signs', a $4.6 million per
year program, will be one of the functions considered for managed
competition. This will definitely impact cyclists, and we'll have to keep an
eye out to make sure that any outsourcing proposal includes guarantees that
bicyclists needs will be included and that they will be designed and
implemented correctly. 

Kathy

From serge at issakov.org  Sun Dec  2 15:56:30 2007
From: serge at issakov.org (Serge Issakov)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 12:56:30 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Is the paint part of the bike lane?
In-Reply-To: <005c01c83517$dd7dfac0$9879f040$@org>
References: <008b01c83453$99986350$ccc929f0$@org>
	<000001c83497$8231b1a0$6501a8c0@NealDesk>
	<005c01c83517$dd7dfac0$9879f040$@org>
Message-ID: <69ec985b0712021256m7e62cbffn4207012d626ac4f@mail.gmail.com>

I know this one.  Joel Rizzo told me.  The CENTER of the stripe is what
actually counts.  So when you measure the width of a bike lane starting at
the curb, for example, you measure from the curb to the center of the bike
lane stripe.  The width of the adjacent traffic lane is from the center of
the bike lane stripe to the center of the stripe that demarcates the left
edge of that traffic.

By the way, even though your wheel might be tracking totally inside the bike
lane, if any part of you, like an elbow, is across the center of the bike
lane stripe, then you are encroaching into the adjacent lane. If you're hit
by, say, a large mirror, if that mirror is to the left of the center of the
bike lane stripe, I think it's on you.  Of course, if the stripe is not
there then you could be riding in the exactly same position with full right
of way, and, in my experience, overtaking motorists will be passing you with
more space, for the most part.

Serge



On Dec 2, 2007 11:16 AM, Kathy Keehan <execdir at sdcbc.org> wrote:

>  Ok, you've stumped me. I have no idea whether or not the line is
> technically in the lane or not. If I had to guess, I'd say that the line is
> not part of the lane (otherwise it would be hard to decide WHICH lane the
> paint belongs to ? the bike lane or the rightmost regular lane?). If anyone
> has some other information, please let me know so I can store it in my vast
> reserves of bicycle trivia!
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
> *From:* Neal Henderson [mailto:nealhe at cox.net]
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:58 PM
> *To:* 'Kathy Keehan'
> *Cc:* sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org
> *Subject:* RE: [SDCBC] FW: Mayor Begins Managed Competition Assessments
>
>
>
> *Hello Kathy,*
>
> * *
>
> *As I was riding by bike today a trivia question came up ? is the line
> that delineates the bicycle lane on the side of the road and approaching
> intersections IN or OUT of the bike lane?*
>
> * *
>
> *For example if my front wheel was a tennis ball it would be in the bike
> lane ? but if my front wheel was a soccer ball it would be out of the bike
> lane.*
>
> * *
>
> *Cheers,*
>
> * *
>
> *Neal*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Interesting to note that 'Pavement Markings and Signs', a $4.6 million per
> year program, will be one of the functions considered for managed
> competition. This will definitely impact cyclists, and we'll have to keep an
> eye out to make sure that any outsourcing proposal includes guarantees that
> bicyclists needs will be included and that they will be designed and
> implemented correctly.
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
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From nealhe at cox.net  Sun Dec  2 16:01:47 2007
From: nealhe at cox.net (Neal Henderson)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:01:47 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Is the paint part of the bike lane?
In-Reply-To: <005c01c83517$dd7dfac0$9879f040$@org>
Message-ID: <008b01c83526$8d5e8370$6501a8c0@NealDesk>

Hello Kathy and All,

 

Bike lane marking IN or OUT of the bike lane?

 

I was informed that basketball would be a better reference for OUT as soccer
ball is IN on line.

 

Maybe it is different in each state, I am in California. Only a small wager
is involved. 

After some Google searching I turned up the following: 

 
<https://www.nysdot.gov/portal/page/portal/divisions/engineering/design/dqab
/hdm/hdm-repository/chapt_17.pdf>
https://www.nysdot.gov/portal/page/portal/divisions/engineering/design/dqab/
hdm/hdm-repository/chapt_17.pdf seems to show the lane is measured like auto
traffic lane lines and each lane is measured to the CENTERLINE of the
markings.

 

So I guess it is a push and the answer is neither IN nor OUT ...... I get
only half of the line for my bike and the other half goes to the motorist.
I did not find a specific references in the Federal references:
http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/PED_BIKE/univcourse/swtoc.htm  or
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/legsregs/directives/fapg/cfr0652.htm  or
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/kno-tutintro.html 

 


Perhaps there is a legal interpretation of the line (that is different from
an engineering construction design spec) that comes into play when an
accident is involved. 

Cheers, 

Neal

 

  _____  

From: Kathy Keehan [mailto:execdir at sdcbc.org] 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:17
To: nealhe at cox.net; sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
Subject: re: Is the paint part of the bike lane? 

 

Ok, you've stumped me. I have no idea whether or not the line is technically
in the lane or not. If I had to guess, I'd say that the line is not part of
the lane (otherwise it would be hard to decide WHICH lane the paint belongs
to - the bike lane or the rightmost regular lane?). If anyone has some other
information, please let me know so I can store it in my vast reserves of
bicycle trivia!

Kathy

 

From: Neal Henderson [mailto:nealhe at cox.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:58 PM
To: 'Kathy Keehan'
Cc: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org
Subject: RE: [SDCBC] FW: Mayor Begins Managed Competition Assessments

 

Hello Kathy,

 

As I was riding by bike today a trivia question came up - is the line that
delineates the bicycle lane on the side of the road and approaching
intersections IN or OUT of the bike lane?

 

For example if my front wheel was a tennis ball it would be in the bike lane
- but if my front wheel was a soccer ball it would be out of the bike lane.

 

Cheers,

 

Neal

 

 

 

Interesting to note that 'Pavement Markings and Signs', a $4.6 million per
year program, will be one of the functions considered for managed
competition. This will definitely impact cyclists, and we'll have to keep an
eye out to make sure that any outsourcing proposal includes guarantees that
bicyclists needs will be included and that they will be designed and
implemented correctly. 

Kathy

 

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From abulifia1 at cox.net  Sun Dec  2 19:52:09 2007
From: abulifia1 at cox.net (Abulifia)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:52:09 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Is the paint part of the bike lane?
In-Reply-To: <008b01c83526$8d5e8370$6501a8c0@NealDesk>
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From execdir at sdcbc.org  Mon Dec  3 16:19:24 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:19:24 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] FW: BikeLeague: Do you have diabetes and cycle as a source
	of exercise?
Message-ID: <005b01c835f2$2eabd4f0$8c037ed0$@org>

In case you would like to be famous!

Kathy

 

From: Tiffany Payne [mailto:Tiffany at bikeleague.org] 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:10 PM
To: execdir at sdcbc.org
Subject: BikeLeague: Do you have diabetes and cycle as a source of exercise?

 

Dear League Members: 

 

A reporter for a national magazine is searching for people with diabetes
(type II) that have found cycling as a source of exercise. He's looking to
interview people who have started or re-discovered the sport and continue to
ride regularly. Any age, male/female and anywhere in the country is fine.
Ideally, the people (you or your friends?) have also found that they reap
other benefits from cycling, such as weight loss. He wants to speak with you
for a few minutes or swap questions through email. Let us know if you fit
the bill --- email us at Elizabeth at bikeleague.org
<blocked::mailto:Elizabeth at bikeleague.org>  or call at 202-822-1333 x215. We
need to hear from you by Dec. 7 --- the deadline is coming up quickly!

 

Much thanks, Tiffany

 

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From execdir at sdcbc.org  Mon Dec  3 17:23:03 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 14:23:03 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Congrats to Richard Wood - making things happen!
Message-ID: <008501c835fb$2ba4c060$82ee4120$@org>

The 'Just Fix It' column in today's UT has a small note mentioning that a
section of Fashion Valley Road has been repaved thanks to the efforts of
Richard Wood, member of the Bicycle Coalition and activist extraordinare.
Congrats to Richard for being the squeaky wheel and getting us some great
new pavement!

Kathy

 

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Kathy Keehan

Executive Director

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition

P.O. Box 34544

San Diego, CA 92163

858.487.6063

execdir at sdcbc.org

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From execdir at sdcbc.org  Mon Dec  3 17:25:41 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 14:25:41 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] FW: December Ride and Learn
Message-ID: <008a01c835fb$70b20f00$52162d00$@org>



-----Original Message-----
From: Zora Callahan [mailto:Zcallaha at guhsd.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:22 PM
To: Zora Callahan
Subject: December Ride and Learn

Hi Everyone,

December Ride and Learn:

Sunday December 9, 2007

We will meet at 9:00 in the parking lot of Action Cyclery, 9910-C  Mira Mesa
Blvd, SD 92131.  We will ride up to Miramar Lake, around the Lake and back
to Action Cyclery, about 8 miles total.  If you don't want to ride UP the
hill to the lake,you may  opt to meet us between 9:15 and 9:30 in the
parking lot  near the restrooms at the Lake.  This will be our FIRST ride
all the way around the Lake since it has been re-opened.  Some of us might
even want to go around twice   :-)  It is about 5 miles around the lake.

Don't miss this lovely ride.  As always, feel free to invite neighbors,
friends, family, etc.........all are welcome.  There might even be some
donuts and coffee involved!!!

See you Sunday!!!!

Pauline & Kathy







From JimBaross at cox.net  Mon Dec  3 23:03:07 2007
From: JimBaross at cox.net (Jim Baross)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:03:07 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Depends on Who is King of the Road
In-Reply-To: <20071202145927.W4VUV.123950.root@fed1wml08.mgt.cox.net>
References: <005c01c83517$dd7dfac0$9879f040$@org>
	<20071202145927.W4VUV.123950.root@fed1wml08.mgt.cox.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071203200245.03d5c378@cox.net>

Some are working on a Bicyclists Bill of Rights.

"Roads are for people not just for people in cars"  I said that.

At 11:59 AM 12/2/2007, jwstump at cox.net wrote:
>Friends,,
>
>We need to start thinking about roads as transportation systems not 
>car versus bike  territory.
>
>Otherwise, the right of way will belong to the biggest bully on the 
>road.  In a democracy we should be first thinking about protecting 
>the rights of the minority and weakest.  Taking this approach he 
>pedestrian always has a reasonable right to the road.
>
>All the best
>Stump
>
>---- Kathy Keehan <execdir at sdcbc.org> wrote:
>
>=============
>Ok, you've stumped me. I have no idea whether or not the line is technically
>in the lane or not. If I had to guess, I'd say that the line is not part of
>the lane (otherwise it would be hard to decide WHICH lane the paint belongs
>to - the bike lane or the rightmost regular lane?). If anyone has some other
>information, please let me know so I can store it in my vast reserves of
>bicycle trivia!
>
>Kathy
>
>
>
>From: Neal Henderson [mailto:nealhe at cox.net]
>Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:58 PM
>To: 'Kathy Keehan'
>Cc: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org
>Subject: RE: [SDCBC] FW: Mayor Begins Managed Competition Assessments
>
>
>
>Hello Kathy,
>
>
>
>As I was riding by bike today a trivia question came up - is the line that
>delineates the bicycle lane on the side of the road and approaching
>intersections IN or OUT of the bike lane?
>
>
>
>For example if my front wheel was a tennis ball it would be in the bike lane
>- but if my front wheel was a soccer ball it would be out of the bike lane.
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>
>Neal
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Interesting to note that 'Pavement Markings and Signs', a $4.6 million per
>year program, will be one of the functions considered for managed
>competition. This will definitely impact cyclists, and we'll have to keep an
>eye out to make sure that any outsourcing proposal includes guarantees that
>bicyclists needs will be included and that they will be designed and
>implemented correctly.
>
>Kathy
>_______________________________________________
>
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From rob_leone at earthlink.net  Tue Dec  4 08:10:25 2007
From: rob_leone at earthlink.net (Robert Leone)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:10:25 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Miramar Road and Carroll Road.
Message-ID: <475551C1.1040405@earthlink.net>

Dear People Who Ride Like the Wind:
	Hi! I used the City's street repair reporting tool on the construction 
in progress at Miramar Road and Carroll Road described below:
Open Trench. Work crew installing something on Carrol Road and Miramar 
Road used dirt to fill an othersize open six inch wide trench in the 
road, running east-west. The dirt fill has worn down -- now it's 
three-four inches deep.

Let's see what happnes.

Robert Leone


From execdir at sdcbc.org  Wed Dec  5 12:19:54 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:19:54 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Volunteer Night Wednesday December 12th
Message-ID: <006f01c83763$0da9a210$28fce630$@org>

Don't forget Volunteer Night next Wednesday, December 12th, 6:30 to 8:30
p.m. at Standley Recreation Center (3585 Governor Drive). It's the holiday
season, so look for some special treats! As usual, there will be many
newsletters to fold, good food, and good conversation, so don't miss it! 
Kathy

 

------------------------------------------

Kathy Keehan

Executive Director

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition

P.O. Box 34544

San Diego, CA 92163

858.487.6063

execdir at sdcbc.org

www.sdcbc.org

 

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From execdir at sdcbc.org  Wed Dec  5 13:11:19 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:11:19 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] FW: bicycling bands seek event
Message-ID: <00b301c8376a$3d425ec0$b7c71c40$@org>

In case you're having a holiday party?

Kathy

 

From: Kipchoge Spencer [mailto:kipchoge at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:37 PM
To: execdir at sdcbc.org
Subject: bicycling bands seek event

 

hi,

I'm on tour by bicycle with my band, carrying all our instruments and
equipment without auto, promoting everyday bicycle lifestyle. we're looking
for an event this week in san diego as we pass through. it could be
something already existing that we could just take part in, or if somebody
wanted to rally a ride, we could make an event out of it. here's a release
about the tour: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/11/prweb571396.htm

thanks for your advocacy work, and please let me know if you have any ideas.


do you know paul steely white? he's a good friend. 

yours,

kipchoge

-- 
Kipchoge
29085 Highway 49
North San Juan CA 95960
530/559-9234
skype kipchoge
www.pleasantrevolution.net 
www.gingerninjas.com
www.myspace.com/gingermyninja

Check out our new video for the VP: http://youtube.com/watch?v=HAtSQQaWJ-0

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business offices, the introduction of e-mail has coincided with an increase
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From tah at san.rr.com  Mon Dec 10 09:50:15 2007
From: tah at san.rr.com (Tom Harvey)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:50:15 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] UT: "City adds signs at scene of bike crash"
Message-ID: <20071210145015.GA23108@bart.simpson.private>

article about installing more signs in carmel country road. it isn't
clear from the article if the signs have actually been installed yet.

 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20071210-9999-lz1m10fixit.html

From jwstump at cox.net  Mon Dec 10 09:49:07 2007
From: jwstump at cox.net (jwstump at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 6:49:07 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Union Tribune Today
In-Reply-To: <474F21AC.5080707@efgh.com>
Message-ID: <20071210094907.VO3WR.28589.root@fed1wml08.mgt.cox.net>

JUST FIX IT
City adds signs at scene of bike crash

By Jeff Ristine
STAFF WRITER

December 10, 2007 



THE SITE: Carmel Country Road in Carmel Valley. 
 
THE PROBLEM: A Carmel Valley teenager was killed Oct. 31 when his bicycle slammed into a vehicle illegally parked in a Carmel Country Road bike lane. 

It happened on a steep, sharp curve near Sagamore Way, where vehicles ignoring the posted no-parking signs are difficult to see from a distance. Trucks were still stopping there the very next day. 

Beverly Beck Ellman, whose daughter attended Canyon Crest Academy with cyclist Nigel Clarke, wanted to do something to avert a future tragedy. Ellman thought red-zone paint on the curb would make the parking restrictions more obvious. 

?People don't realize how dangerous it is? to park there, she said. 




AdvertisementEllman got in touch with San Diego police last month and was promised they would step up enforcement, but her idea of an extended red zone wasn't getting any support. 
STATUS: San Diego's Transportation Engineering Design Division looked at the area after the accident to see what measures needed to be taken, said Deborah Van Wanseele, deputy director for traffic engineering. 

The city decided to install additional signs, Van Wanseele said, ?so it's more crystal clear that you can't park there.? 

WHO'S RESPONSIBLE: Deborah Van Wanseele, who can be reached at (619) 533-3126 or at dvanwanseele at sandiego.gov. 

NEED A PROBLEM SOLVED: Is there a problem that government hasn't taken care of despite your complaints? Whether it's a missing bus bench or an unkempt park anywhere in San Diego County, Just Fix It might be able to help. 

Complaint forms are at justfixit.uniontrib.com, or call (800) 820-8714 to describe your problem. 



 ?Next Story? 


 

---- Philip Erdelsky <pje at efgh.com> wrote: 

=============
The channelization of Forrester Creek in Santee (Thomas 1231 C7) has
resulted in a major improvement to the bike path running along its
southwest bank between Mission Gorge Road and Prospect Ave.

The part just north of Prospect Ave. used to be overgrown and
hard to find (http://www.efgh.com/bike/for4.jpg). Now it is
wide, smooth and easy to ride (http://www.efgh.com/bike/for5.jpg).

The loss of vegetation may not please some nature lovers, but
bicyclists passing through will appreciate the smooth surface.

The part south of Prospect Ave. is unchanged.

The Thomas Guide for this area is not up-to-date. Olive Lane now
continues south across the creek and meets Prospect Ave. at
Argent St. Via Zapador no longer crosses the creek, but there is
access to the path from the north end of Atlas View Dr.

Unfortunately, there are no curb cuts for the path on the north
side of Prospect Ave. or the south side of Mission Gorge Road, so
you can't ride the entire path without dismounting or hopping curbs.
Cross Prospect Ave. with care; the crossing is unmarked and unprotected.

-- Philip Erdelsky


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From stephanvance at cox.net  Tue Dec 11 02:05:55 2007
From: stephanvance at cox.net (Stephan Vance)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:05:55 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Help Write the Western Rail Trail Guidebook
Message-ID: <004201c83bc4$466397e0$b9cd6544@D9CXGJ41>

The Rails to Trails Conservancy is developing a series of guidebooks about
rail trails around the country, and they looking for volunteers to help
develop the California (and Nevada and Arizona) edition. If you are
interested in this unique opportunity to participating in this project,
visit the Rails
<http://www.railstotrails.org/wherewework/western/news/wereg_news_0712guideb
ookmapping.html>  to Trails Web site at
http://www.railstotrails.org/wherewework/western/news/wereg_news_0712guidebo
okmapping.html. 

 

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From execdir at sdcbc.org  Tue Dec 11 17:49:48 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:49:48 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Don't forget Volunteer night tomorrow (12/12)
Message-ID: <00ae01c83c48$229c9c60$67d5d520$@org>

We'll be eating, drinking, and folding like crazy tomorrow (Wednesday,
December 12) at Standley Recreation Center, 3585 Governor Drive. 6:30 to
8:30 p.m. in the Games Room.

Food, beverages, and newsletters provided - all you have to bring are your
hands and maybe a good story to share. Meet some new people or share a story
with some old friends - we hope to see you there!!

Kathy

 

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Kathy Keehan

Executive Director

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition

P.O. Box 34544

San Diego, CA 92163

858.487.6063

execdir at sdcbc.org

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From gcarman at san.rr.com  Thu Dec 13 11:10:51 2007
From: gcarman at san.rr.com (Gene Carman)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:10:51 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Anyone notice the commentary in the Union
In-Reply-To: <004201c83bc4$466397e0$b9cd6544@D9CXGJ41>
References: <004201c83bc4$466397e0$b9cd6544@D9CXGJ41>
Message-ID: <20071213161124.HQSM14132.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@ppg1.san.rr.com>

Taking a new look at streets and sidewalks
[]


By Neal Peirce
December 13, 2007

The cause has simmered for years ? and we've all 
felt some of it: frustration with fast traffic 
that turns streets through our neighborhoods into 
corridors of fear. There is a resentment about 
narrow, rough or nonexistent sidewalks, a 
reluctance to have children cross high-speed 
roadways while walking to school. Bicyclists take 
their lives in their hands when venturing onto major roads.

Now, finally, there's an organized nationwide 
movement to fight the good fight for saner 
streets. It's a coalition mounting a nationwide 
campaign for city and town roadways that includes 
safe, quality space for pedestrians and cyclists 
and public transit users, accommodating their 
wishes just as seriously as those of car and truck drivers.

It's called, fittingly, the Complete the Streets 
movement 
(<http://www.completestreets.org>www.completestreets.org). 
Its members cover an amazing gambit ? from 
America Bikes and AARP, Smart Growth America and 
the American Society of Landscape Architects to 
Paralyzed Veterans of America. The Institute of 
Transportation Engineers is even on board, 
amazing for a profession long known as the 
?throughput crowd? for its pushing of maximum 
numbers of vehicles at maximum feasible speed 
through cities and villages alike.

Complete Streets ?are about a right of way for 
everyone out there traveling, walking or biking,? 
says Barbara McCann, the movement coordinator. 
All users of all ages and abilities, she asserts, 
need to be able to move safely along and across a 
complete street. And, McCann adds, ?safety is a huge reason.?

As well it should be: Every 113 minutes across 
the United States, a motorized vehicle hits and 
kills a pedestrian or cyclist. Every eight 
minutes, one is injured, sometimes paralyzed. 
Most of Europe, by contrast, has worked for years 
at expanding walkways and bikeways, making 
intersections safer and erecting physical 
barriers to fast city and town traffic. On a 
per-mile basis, a German pedestrian has only a 
third as much chance of being a traffic fatality 
as his American counterpart; a German cyclist only half.

People tightly wed to the single-passenger car 
concept are least likely to accept the complete 
streets idea. But 90 percent of us, according to 
a survey by the National Association of Realtors, 
believe that new communities should be designed 
so we can walk more and drive less, and that 
public transportation should be improved and accessible.

States and cities are getting the message. 
Illinois this fall passed a complete streets law 
requiring the state's transportation department 
to include bicycling and walking facilities in 
all its urban-area projects. Five other states 
(Massachusetts, Florida, Maryland, Oregon, Rhode 
Island) now have some form of complete streets 
law on the books. More than 50 metro regions, 
counties or cities ? Charlotte to Johnson County, 
Kan., Salt Lake City to Seattle ? have passed 
similar statutes. Many others are now considering them.

Chicago, for example, is moving to narrower 
traffic lanes, median ?refuges? and curb 
extensions for pedestrians, as well as converting 
four-lane roadways into three lanes with marked bike lanes.

But for ?a really dramatic increase in cycling in 
cities,? says Tim Blumenthal, executive director 
of Bikes Belong, ?painting stripes won't make 
enough people feel safe.? Paris is creating and 
protecting new bike lanes with vertical 1.5-foot 
separation posts. On New York's Ninth Avenue, one 
of four lanes of traffic has been removed and 
parked cars moved out several feet from the 
sidewalk, creating a safe cycle-only corridor.

Project for Public Spaces has some of the right 
advice for cities: ?Stop planning for speed.? 
?Right-size? road projects in cities and suburbs 
to ?reconnect communities to their neighbors, a 
waterfront or park.? And ?think of transportation 
as public space? ? roads, transit terminals, 
sidewalks, reconfigured to create pleasant 
environments, a true sense of place.

Finally, there's health. News reports indicate 
America's obesity epidemic ?is leveling off? ? 
but at outrageously high and dangerous weights. 
So what's the best cure? Walking? An average 
person walking half an hour a day would lose 
about 13 pounds a year. Blumenthal would have us 
think about ?two miles, two wheels? ? cycle or 
walk for the 41 percent of all our trips that are two miles or less.

Complete streets make the walking/cycling 
prospect sound far more attractive. And now the 
American Public Health Association is seeking to 
connect obesity with the increasingly dire 
climate-change challenge. Trading miles behind 
the wheel for increased walking, cycling and 
public transit can trim pounds and cut greenhouse 
gases simultaneously. Not to mention reducing 
smog and car deaths and registering less heart 
disease, osteoporosis and depression.

?This may present the greatest public health 
opportunity that we've had in a century,? says 
the University of Wisconsin's Jonathan Patz, 
president of the International Association for Ecology and Health.

He may be right. But we're not likely to get 
there until we make our streets and public realm 
safer and more appealing ? the essence of the complete streets message.
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From abulifia1 at cox.net  Thu Dec 13 21:02:33 2007
From: abulifia1 at cox.net (Abulifia)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:02:33 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Anyone notice the commentary in the Union
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From pje at efgh.com  Thu Dec 13 21:33:37 2007
From: pje at efgh.com (Philip Erdelsky)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:33:37 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Plaza Bonita Bike Path
Message-ID: <4761EB81.6070608@efgh.com>

The long-awaited Plaza Bonita Bike Path is (almost) finished.

It runs along the west side of Plaza Bonita Road, passes through
a tunnel under the road, and emerges at the intersection of
Bonita Road and Plaza Bonita Road. It is approximately 0.59
miles long.

People who thought this path would be an extension of the
Sweetwater River Bike Path (and I was one) may be disappointed.
There is a 0.40-mile section of Plaza Bonita Road between the
two paths. Apparently, there was not enough room between the road
and the river for a path in this area.

The path wasn't quite finished on December 12, 2007 -- there were still a few 
barriers in place. It follows the alignment of a previously existing unpaved 
path and runs through a previously existing tunnel.

The name "Plaza Bonita Bike Path" appears on official signs, together with the 
price tag -- $281,000. (I wonder how they managed to spend so much on such a 
small project.)

Photographs:

     path begins at Bonita Mesa Road: http://www.efgh.com/bike/pb1.jpg
     path crosses Sweetwater River:   http://www.efgh.com/bike/pb2.jpg
     tunnel under Plaza Bonita Road:  http://www.efgh.com/bike/pb3.jpg
     path ends on Bonita Road:        http://www.efgh.com/bike/pb4.jpg


-- Philip Erdelsky

From wblomgren at gmail.com  Thu Dec 13 21:59:05 2007
From: wblomgren at gmail.com (Wade Blomgren)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:59:05 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Anyone notice the commentary in the Union
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On Dec 13, 2007 6:02 PM, Abulifia <abulifia1 at cox.net> wrote:

>   The U.S. is not bicycle and/or pedestrian culture and won't be until gas
> is $10.00/gallon.
>

Calvin's dad actually had a target of $8 a gallon way back in 1993, but I
guess $10 is good, considering inflation.  I think this is my favorite comic
strip episode of all time:

http://www.s-anand.net/calvinandhobbes.html#19930428
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From gcarman at san.rr.com  Fri Dec 14 09:47:21 2007
From: gcarman at san.rr.com (Gene Carman)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:47:21 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Anyone notice the commentary in the Union
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Sadly, I tend to agree that the US, and California in particular, is 
no where near being a ped/cycling culture.  And the newest bike path 
in the Bonita area really reminds me of this:

path begins at Bonita Mesa Road: http://www.efgh.com/bike/pb1.jpg
path crosses Sweetwater River:   http://www.efgh.com/bike/pb2.jpg
tunnel under Plaza Bonita Road:  http://www.efgh.com/bike/pb3.jpg
path ends on Bonita Road:        http://www.efgh.com/bike/pb4.jpg


Compare the above to some pics I took while in Oulu Finland, where 
they don't have the wonderful year round cycling weather we have in 
San Diego, yet manage to have over 20% cycling ridership for 
transportation.  All ages bicycle for various reasons from shopping 
to work commuting in Oulu, just south of the Artic circle.  Of course 
here in the US we have the most bicycles of any nation...  residing 
and rusting in garages.

This first link shows a path that is below the road grade...  compare 
it to the "tunnel shot" of the Bonita path, 
above.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgUkNxUE0wc

This second link shows a path that is at grade, and parallels the 
road and a sidewalk.  Of course an at grade path has to cross the 
road...  well, let's just say motorists are quite a bit different in 
their treatment of cyclists there than 
here.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnEP8Yzennc

Now what do I really want from all of this?  Oulu like paths; respect 
from motorists...  Complete Streets... ??   Heck, I think if we could 
at the very least get curb cuts for all the paths in San Diego 
county, where they intersect roads... that would be a nice start down 
the "proper path."

One of the nicest paths here in San Diego county is the 56 bike 
path...  paralleling hiway 56 for roughly 8 miles.  And yet as 
wonderful as this path is, the western end still lacks proper curb 
cuts, and proper signs.   Other paths around the county suffer the 
same fate... lack of proper curb cuts to allow cyclists to easily, 
smoothly access the paths (if they can even find the paths).

I don't think we are going to get anywhere near Complete Streets for 
some time to come, but if we could only remove the small "barriers to 
entry" at the local paths, that alone would be an improvement, and 
along with the curb cuts, a few signs to point to the paths, so 
cyclists could be made aware of their existence...  I think that 
would be a nice start.

Can we somehow make curb cuts a priority for the county, or at least 
the local cities?

Bicycle sensing traffic lights would be nice too... but heck that 
might just be pushing things a bit too far.  GRIN.

At 06:02 PM 12/13/2007, Abulifia wrote:
>Considering the 'tude/hostile, aggressive driving exhibited by 
>::MOST:: motorists towards anyone on a bike or on foot, not to 
>mention the idiot factor as evidenced by the eternally distracted 
>who are busy yakking on the cell phone, the Complete Street Movement 
>will need more than luck in getting this program off the 
>ground.  It's going to take a complete and total ::PARADIGM:: change 
>of society, and I, quite frankly, don't see that happening.  The 
>U.S. is not bicycle and/or pedestrian culture and won't be until gas 
>is $10.00/gallon.
>
>
>
>Gene Carman wrote:
>>Taking a new look at streets and sidewalks
>>[]
>>
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From JimBaross at cox.net  Fri Dec 14 13:21:07 2007
From: JimBaross at cox.net (Jim Baross)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:21:07 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] curb cuts,
 was Re:  Anyone notice the commentary in the  Union
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Thanks for the examples.
Were the bicyclists shown riding toward you riding on the wrong side 
of that ridge-separated path or was the left side for pedestrians?

Beginning rant warning -

About curb cuts... I'm afraid that many of the barriers to entry 
and/or exit from segregated (Bike Lanes and cycle-tracks) and/or 
separated (Bike Paths and some cycle-tracks) facilities for bicycling 
are needed because, in too many cases, the intersection of the 
special facility with the street is not designed to accommodate 
riding connectivity; with curb cuts bicyclists would be/are often 
encouraged to "ride out" into traffic with no traffic controls in 
existence as would normally be designed in and used for an 
intersection of two roads. "Ride-outs" are a major mistake 
bicyclists, especially kids, make leading to collisions. Yes, 
educating folks about ride-out dangers would help and 
we/SDCBC/CABO/CBC/LAB support more education efforts, but no one is 
designing vehicular intersections without controls (stop signs, 
signals, etc.) and expecting education to solve/reduce conflicts!

Bike Paths like the one along Hwy 56 only (mostly?) provide for 
Mid-block pedestrian-style connections; as I recall, connecting to 
sidewalks and only allowing legal street crossings at standard 
intersections in crosswalks (is it legal to ride in a crosswalk - 
there is no Statewide agency agreement!) located some distance from 
the actual path connection with the streets. The Coalition tried to 
get sufficient funding directed to provide a path that, as with roads 
designed for vehicular travel, you didn't have to stop, get out/off 
of your bike (or car) to become a pedestrian, and then cross the 
intersecting roads.

We got what you might say the government decided was what most people 
wanted; a lot spent to keep cars moving fast and a tiny fraction to 
provide for bicycling.  :-(
Until we get better at convincing "government"/more people that 
bicycling is clean, efficient transportation for many trips, we won't 
get appropriate encouragement, design accommodation, acceptance by 
other road users, etc. AND, my major fear, we will get *special* less 
efficient, even less safe, bicycling facilities that force us to "the 
back of the bus" accommodations.

We can be grateful for the special facilities we got... but, I am not 
content with third class (behind motor and pedestrian traffic) 
treatment for a first class (bicycling) travel mode.

Ride more. Be visible *ambassadors" of competent/legal/courteous road 
use by bicyclists. Speak up as a squeaky-wheel (but courteously if 
you have trouble controlling your temper) to anyone, but especially 
to folks who have decision making authority about surface 
transportation issues - city councilmembers, mayors, other elected 
officials. Vote for a cleaner/cooler planet where people can choose 
to bike anywhere, anytime.

End rant -

Jim (may we all ride more in the New Year) Baross

At 06:47 AM 12/14/2007, Gene Carman wrote:
>Sadly, I tend to agree that the US, and California in particular, is 
>no where near being a ped/cycling culture.  And the newest bike path 
>in the Bonita area really reminds me of this:



From public at exwis.com  Fri Dec 14 15:37:18 2007
From: public at exwis.com (Fulton Martin)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:37:18 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Anyone notice the commentary in the Union
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References: <004201c83bc4$466397e0$b9cd6544@D9CXGJ41>	<20071213161124.HQSM14132.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@ppg1.san.rr.com>	<4761E439.3080203@cox.net>
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Wade's link didn't work for me, but I found the strip at 
<http://calvinandhobbes.kabaal.net/?day=19930428>

Wade Blomgren wrote:
> 
> 
> On Dec 13, 2007 6:02 PM, Abulifia <abulifia1 at cox.net 
> <mailto:abulifia1 at cox.net>> wrote:
> 
>       The U.S. is not bicycle and/or pedestrian culture and won't be
>     until gas is $10.00/gallon.
> 
> 
> Calvin's dad actually had a target of $8 a gallon way back in 1993, but 
> I guess $10 is good, considering inflation.  I think this is my favorite 
> comic strip episode of all time:
> 
> http://www.s-anand.net/calvinandhobbes.html#19930428

-- 
Fulton Martin
__=o&o>__
public at exwis.com
San Diego, CA
N32 43.956, W117 05.874

From serge at issakov.org  Fri Dec 14 16:06:21 2007
From: serge at issakov.org (Serge Issakov)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:06:21 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Anyone notice the commentary in the Union
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On Dec 13, 2007 6:02 PM, Abulifia <abulifia1 at cox.net> wrote:

>  Considering the 'tude/hostile, aggressive driving exhibited by ::MOST::
> motorists towards anyone on a bike or on foot, not to mention the idiot
> factor as evidenced by the eternally distracted who are busy yakking on the
> cell phone, the Complete Street Movement will need more than luck in getting
> this program off the ground.  It's going to take a complete and total
> ::PARADIGM:: change of society, and I, quite frankly, don't see that
> happening.  The U.S. is not bicycle and/or pedestrian culture and won't be
> until gas is $10.00/gallon.
>

MOST motorists exhibit hostile attitudes and aggressive driving towards
bicyclists and pedestrians?

IMHO, this kind of negative hyperbole about the San Diego cycling
environment is misleading and contrary to the interests of cycling advocacy.

Whether riding to work in heavy/fast commute traffic, out on a training
ride, or doing a recreational ride with my daughter in tow on the
trailercycle, the only appopriate way to describe how often I encounter
hostile or aggressive-towards-me motorists is *very rarely*.

To the extent that our behavior influences how others treat us, and our
beliefs influence how we behave, believing that "most motorists are
aggressive/hostile to us" is a self-fulfilling prophecy.  This is because if
you really believe it, then you must ride as if it is true, which is likely
to encourage such attitudes about us.  That is, you are likely to ride in a
defensive manner, which can manifest itself in inappropriately conciliatory
behavior that encourages the meatheads to take advantage and get hostile or
aggressive (e.g., riding too far right and thus inadvertently encouraging
close/aggressive passing and being overlooked by crossing traffic ahead of
you).  Feeling defensive can also result in chip-on-shoulder behavior and
acting in openly annoying ways, perhaps feeling justified about your f-you
attitude towards motorists  (after all, the best defense is a strong
offense).  What's common to all this is an underlying "us vs. them" belief
and attitude.  Such an attitude is difficult to disguise, and it's detection
is virtually inevitable.  "They" can smell it, and react accordingly.  If
you don't believe it's a cooperative environment out there, then you're not
going to act as if you believe it is a cooperative environment, and so they
won't treat you cooperatively.

The good news is that opposite belief, *most motorists act appropriately,
safely, reasonably and respectfully around cyclists*, is also a
self-fulfilling prophecy.    That is, if you really believe this to be true,
and act accordingly, you will find that it is true.  Well, it works for me.
Since I believe it's a cooperative environment out there, I act as if I
believe it is a cooperative environment, and so other drivers, almost
universally, treat me cooperatively.

Serge















-- 
NOTE: Any opinions expressed above are mine and not necessarily shared by
any organization in which I am involved.
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From tlettington at san.rr.com  Fri Dec 14 22:00:25 2007
From: tlettington at san.rr.com (Tom Lettington)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:00:25 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Our EXECDIR deserves a round of applause
Message-ID: <20071215030012.YPVX27254.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@amd.san.rr.com>

After reading the letter to the editor in the North County Section of 
the Thursday edition of Union Tribune, I have to say "Hats Way Off" 
to our Executive Director for a piece so well written and exactly on 
point.  Thank you Kathy !!!

    - Tom



From dwhite7 at san.rr.com  Fri Dec 14 22:19:01 2007
From: dwhite7 at san.rr.com (Dave White)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:19:01 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Our EXECDIR deserves a round of applause
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Thanks Kathy, for expressing what so many of us have been thinking.
That's a good attempt at public education (we all can echo).
Here's the link.  Scroll down to
Bicyclists, motorists must obey road laws
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20071213/news_lz2e13letters.html


On Dec 14, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Tom Lettington wrote:

> After reading the letter to the editor in the North County Section of
> the Thursday edition of Union Tribune, I have to say "Hats Way Off"
> to our Executive Director for a piece so well written and exactly on
> point.  Thank you Kathy !!!
>
>     - Tom
>
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From DFEGE at aol.com  Fri Dec 14 23:25:07 2007
From: DFEGE at aol.com (DFEGE at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:25:07 EST
Subject: [SDCBC] Our EXECDIR deserves a round of applause
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I have to say that I agree!!  That was an excellent letter!!  I  was proud to 
be a member of the Coalition when I read the letter. Good job,  Kathy.
 
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From jwstump at cox.net  Sat Dec 15 00:55:06 2007
From: jwstump at cox.net (J. W. Stump)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:55:06 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Our EXECDIR deserves a round of applause & a handshake
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SDBC

Good work deserves applause and praise; but also compensating rewards.

Ms. K's performance this year should be recognized by more than a pat on the back.

All the best
John Stump
4133 Poplar
City Heights, California 92105

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave White 
  To: Tom Lettington 
  Cc: sdcbc at bikesandiego.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Our EXECDIR deserves a round of applause


  Thanks Kathy, for expressing what so many of us have been thinking.
  That's a good attempt at public education (we all can echo).
  Here's the link. Scroll down to 
  Bicyclists, motorists must obey road laws
  http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20071213/news_lz2e13letters.html


  On Dec 14, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Tom Lettington wrote:


    After reading the letter to the editor in the North County Section of 
    the Thursday edition of Union Tribune, I have to say "Hats Way Off" 
    to our Executive Director for a piece so well written and exactly on 
    point. Thank you Kathy !!!

    - Tom


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From execdir at sdcbc.org  Sat Dec 15 13:13:40 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:13:40 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Our EXECDIR deserves a round of applause & a handshake
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John, thanks for the kind words. I do get paid for writing letters like
that. 

Maybe this is a good time to note that the Coalition mostly runs on
membership dollars and donations. If you like what is happening, please
consider an end of the year donation to the cause, or encourage a friend to
join! 

This would also be a good time to note that many of you have renewed or
added to your memberships over the past month - thank you all. We couldn't
run the organization without your support. 

Kathy

 

 

From: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org [mailto:sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org]
On Behalf Of J. W. Stump
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:55 PM
To: Dave White; Tom Lettington
Cc: sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
Subject: [SDCBC] Our EXECDIR deserves a round of applause & a handshake

 

SDBC

 

Good work deserves applause and praise; but also compensating rewards.

 

Ms. K's performance this year should be recognized by more than a pat on the
back.

 

All the best
John Stump
4133 Poplar
City Heights, California 92105

 

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From: Dave White <mailto:dwhite7 at san.rr.com>  

To: Tom <mailto:tlettington at san.rr.com>  Lettington 

Cc: sdcbc at bikesandiego.org 

Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:19 PM

Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Our EXECDIR deserves a round of applause

 

Thanks Kathy, for expressing what so many of us have been thinking.
That's a good attempt at public education (we all can echo).
Here's the link. Scroll down to 
Bicyclists, motorists must obey road laws
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20071213/news_lz2e13letters.html


On Dec 14, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Tom Lettington wrote:

After reading the letter to the editor in the North County Section of 
the Thursday edition of Union Tribune, I have to say "Hats Way Off" 
to our Executive Director for a piece so well written and exactly on 
point. Thank you Kathy !!!

- Tom


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From dwhite7 at san.rr.com  Sat Dec 15 17:48:20 2007
From: dwhite7 at san.rr.com (Dave White)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:48:20 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] urban ride a holiday treat
Message-ID: <3400a965ba616e0fb51197d340a79285@san.rr.com>

How often do you have a chance to ride through urban and surrounding 
areas in a tight peloton of 150 cyclists - AND put a smile on a child?
The SDBC Holiday Toy Ride (the club's 20th, our first) today was a real 
treat.  http://www.sdbc.org/core/includes/docs/ToyRide2007.pdf
The spontaneous response from motorists and 
pedestrians-turned-spectators was overwhelmingly positive and in the 
spirit of the season, especially in response to the obvious mission of 
the decorated holiday entourage.  Hoots and toots and cheery exchanges 
were plentiful, and lots of ringing bells.
The gifts of toys and food were delivered at the Salvation Army, which 
provided a hearty snack table for cyclists.
A special thanks to Santa (aka Ralph Elliot), who really knows how to 
lead and pace a parade peloton.  The event demonstrates, to cyclists 
and motorists, one of the most effective uses of the take-a-lane 
technique.  The 4-6 wide peloton took the lane (where appropriate) and 
made effective urban transit.
This was sharing the road at its best - at a time and place where there 
was plenty of road to share, and bicycles outnumbered motor vehicles.
Thanks to SDBC for the ride, and to participants for all the fun.
Happy Holidays
Dave & Nancy 'Stoker' White (and Hairy, the orangatang)


From tony at tonypietsch.com  Wed Dec 19 04:18:02 2007
From: tony at tonypietsch.com (Tony Pietsch)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:18:02 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] FW: Revolutionary New Transmission Technology | MITEF
	Presents Fallbrook Technologies | January 16, 2008
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This may be of some interest, especially since their first application was
to a bicycle that you can trial ride...
Tony

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008; 5pm - 8pm
The Salk Institute

>From Scooters to SUVs:
A Revolutionary New
Transmission Technology

If it needs to change speeds, Fallbrook
Technologies makes shifting gears,
well, gearless

Did you ever dream of "owning" the market with your technology?
Fallbrook Technologies has the opportunity to do just that.

With applications that range from two- and four-wheel vehicles to wind
turbines, the opportunity for Fallbrook Technologies' new transmission
technology, called NuVinci, is huge. Join us in an open forum to discuss the
best approaches for commercialization.

1. Commercialization has begun: How should Fallbrook Technologies balance
short term cash flow opportunities from its current 2-wheel market with its
long term potential in the 4-wheel market and beyond?

2. The applications are seemingly endless: Where to start? What are the
fastest methods for technology adoption? -- a) write the textbook for the
engineering schools; b) find a partner to license and run with it, c) Drive
application from within, or d) Other.

When was the last time you rode a bicycle? Experience the NuVinci technology
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Who Should Attend?
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About the Company
Fallbrook Technologies is causing a revolution in drivetrain technology
that's winning prestigious awards and gaining rapid acceptance worldwide.
It's a new way of transmitting mechanical power based on spheres instead of
gears. The NuVinci continuously variable planetary (CVP) technology, an
innovative new continuously variable transmission (CVT), is not only helping
vehicle designers and component manufacturers improve performance, ride
quality, and capabilities in existing products, it's driving change and new
designs never before thought possible.

Fallbrook has been successful in the bicycle and scooter market, for which
it licenses its technology. With more than 100 patents, its CVP technology
has broad applications to many other markets, including lawn & garden
vehicles, light electronic vehicles, and traditional automotives. You might
say that the NuVinci is the "next big transmission invention."

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From rob_leone at earthlink.net  Wed Dec 19 05:02:39 2007
From: rob_leone at earthlink.net (Robert Leone)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:02:39 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Military Families get bicycles.
Message-ID: <4768EC3F.7090704@earthlink.net>

Dear SDCBCers:
	Does anyone have contacts with the San Diego USO? They're distributing 
nearly a thousand bicycles to military families. This sounds like a bike 
rodeo just waiting to happen.

	http://www.navycompass.com/news/newsview.asp?c=231780
Text:
Bicycles donated for San Diego military families

Friday, December 14, 2007

By Commander, Naval Surface Forces Public Affairs

Vice Adm. Terrance T. Etnyre, commander, Naval Surface Forces, paid a 
visit to BAE Systems in Rancho Bernardo, Calif., Dec. 5 to thank the 
corporation and its employees for their donation of 965 bicycles and 
helmets to the San Diego United Service Organization (USO).

The bicycles will go to children of military service members who may not 
have mom or dad home this holiday season.

"Sailors and Marines deployed around the world," said Etnyre. "You don't 
know how much it means to them and their families to know that they have 
the support of their community."

The bicycles, which were divided between nine different bases in San 
Diego County, will be given to children of junior enlisted personnel.

Etnyre said, "This outpouring of generosity sends a message to our 
Sailors and Marines that this is a wonderful community to live in."

This is the seventh year that BAE Systems and USO have partnered to 
spread holiday cheer through the donation of bicycles. In order to pay 
for the bicycles, BAE Systems employees conduct fundraising events and 
assemble many of the bikes on their own time.

Since the inception of the program in 2001, more than 4,000 bikes and 
helmets have been given to military families in San Diego.

President/CEO of the San Diego USO, Susan Farrell said, "This is one of 
those cases where you will never see there faces, but you know you've 
made children happy."

END of quote.

Robert Leone


From serge at issakov.org  Wed Dec 19 12:27:44 2007
From: serge at issakov.org (Serge Issakov)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:27:44 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] urban ride a holiday treat
In-Reply-To: <3400a965ba616e0fb51197d340a79285@san.rr.com>
References: <3400a965ba616e0fb51197d340a79285@san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <69ec985b0712190927p45a42d73p9800f155a42253e1@mail.gmail.com>

Now that we have the official number from the Salvation Army -- *190
toys*for needy children,
*a Toy Ride record*! -- I would like to thank Todd, Ralph and everyone who
attended, especially all the riders who came from other clubs.  That really
helps make it the wonderful experience that it is.

On a personal note, this year I decided to try to do it with my 50 lbs/7
year old daughter Anya riding on her Burley Piccolo trailercycle attached to
the back of my bike.  The most she had ridden before was about 20 miles, so
the plan was to have Mom drop us off and be "on call" to pick us up.  To my
surprise, we did not have any trouble keeping up, well except for the
Fairmount climb where we dropped from near the front of the 200-rider group
to the very back, and Anya was happy and energetic when we got to the Joan
Croc center.  The breakfast burritos and hot chocolate hit the spot, and she
was fine when we got home, with 42 miles on the odometer.  I, however, was
beat!  So kudos to Santa Ralph for setting an excellent holiday/family pace,
including waiting through a traffic signal cycle at the top of Fairmount to
give everyone a chance to regroup.

To all of you on this list who were not able to make it this year, we look
forward to having you join us next year!

Serge

P.S.

Check out what I found in the vehicle code.

CVC 1225
Christmas Red Light Rule

1225.  (a) A driver facing a steady circular red signal alone shall stop at
a marked limit line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near
side of the intersection or, if none, then before entering the intersection,
and shall remain stopped until an indication to proceed is shown, except as
provided in subdivision (b).

(b) A bicyclist facing a steady circular red signal shall not enter the
intersection, unless entering the intersection as part of the annual
SDBC/Salvation Army Toy Ride when the rider in front of him has entered the
intersection legally and is no more than one bike length in front of him,
and is cheerfully smiling and waving at the motorists waiting, which may
include law enforcement officers.

http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc1225-onlyhalfkidding.htm


On Dec 15, 2007 2:48 PM, Dave White <dwhite7 at san.rr.com> wrote:

> How often do you have a chance to ride through urban and surrounding
> areas in a tight peloton of 150 cyclists - AND put a smile on a child?
> The SDBC Holiday Toy Ride (the club's 20th, our first) today was a real
> treat.  http://www.sdbc.org/core/includes/docs/ToyRide2007.pdf
> The spontaneous response from motorists and
> pedestrians-turned-spectators was overwhelmingly positive and in the
> spirit of the season, especially in response to the obvious mission of
> the decorated holiday entourage.  Hoots and toots and cheery exchanges
> were plentiful, and lots of ringing bells.
> The gifts of toys and food were delivered at the Salvation Army, which
> provided a hearty snack table for cyclists.
> A special thanks to Santa (aka Ralph Elliot), who really knows how to
> lead and pace a parade peloton.  The event demonstrates, to cyclists
> and motorists, one of the most effective uses of the take-a-lane
> technique.  The 4-6 wide peloton took the lane (where appropriate) and
> made effective urban transit.
> This was sharing the road at its best - at a time and place where there
> was plenty of road to share, and bicycles outnumbered motor vehicles.
> Thanks to SDBC for the ride, and to participants for all the fun.
> Happy Holidays
> Dave & Nancy 'Stoker' White (and Hairy, the orangatang)
>
>


-- 
NOTE: Any opinions expressed above are mine and not necessarily shared by
any organization in which I am involved.
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From JimBaross at cox.net  Wed Dec 19 12:25:48 2007
From: JimBaross at cox.net (Jim Baross)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:25:48 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Military Families get bicycles.
In-Reply-To: <4768EC3F.7090704@earthlink.net>
References: <4768EC3F.7090704@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071219092413.0379e140@cox.net>

Hmmm, I know that the Coalition is helping with a similar event, bike 
give away event to kids, on Saturday...

At 02:02 AM 12/19/2007, Robert Leone wrote:
>Dear SDCBCers:
>         Does anyone have contacts with the San Diego USO? They're 
> distributing
>nearly a thousand bicycles to military families. This sounds like a bike
>rodeo just waiting to happen.
>
>         http://www.navycompass.com/news/newsview.asp?c=231780
>Text:
>Bicycles donated for San Diego military families
>
>Friday, December 14, 2007
>
>By Commander, Naval Surface Forces Public Affairs
>
>Vice Adm. Terrance T. Etnyre, commander, Naval Surface Forces, paid a
>visit to BAE Systems in Rancho Bernardo, Calif., Dec. 5 to thank the
>corporation and its employees for their donation of 965 bicycles and
>helmets to the San Diego United Service Organization (USO).



From cyclemedia at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 19 16:22:16 2007
From: cyclemedia at yahoo.com (Lauren Cooper (DancesWithCars))
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:22:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SDCBC] Route question please: Oceanside/San Clemente
In-Reply-To: <mailman.98.1198055914.28937.sdcbc@bikesandiego.org>
Message-ID: <911135.99256.qm@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Route question please: Oceanside/San Clemente

Anyone know if the bicycle gates (and any other obstacles) on old Hwy101
are negotiable with a 9foot recumbent tandem trike?(!)  My 86yo mom and I
are planning her first bike tour to San Clemente.

Also, anyone recommend a B&B in San Clemente?  
Or one in IB at end of Silver Strand trail?

Thanks.  Lauren





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From execdir at sdcbc.org  Fri Dec 21 17:36:58 2007
From: execdir at sdcbc.org (Kathy Keehan)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:36:58 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Hoping to find a kid trailer for February 2 and 3
Message-ID: <002e01c84421$ffd3a890$ff7af9b0$@org>

Hello all,

The California Bicycle Coalition is coming to town for their quarterly board
meeting on February 2 and 3rd. One of the CBC board members would like to
bring their family and do some cycling. I'm wondering if anyone on this list
has a bike trailer for a child that they could borrow for that weekend.
Please let me know if you would be willing to loan out your trailer. Thanks.

Kathy

 

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Kathy Keehan

Executive Director

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition

P.O. Box 34544

San Diego, CA 92163

858.487.6063

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From stephanvance at cox.net  Sat Dec 22 02:15:18 2007
From: stephanvance at cox.net (Stephan Vance)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:15:18 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Hoping to find a kid trailer for February 2 and 3
In-Reply-To: <002e01c84421$ffd3a890$ff7af9b0$@org>
References: <002e01c84421$ffd3a890$ff7af9b0$@org>
Message-ID: <001e01c8446a$688dba40$b9cd6544@D9CXGJ41>

If you have a trailer for sale, you might find a buyer since our board
member is just starting her family. Let Kathy or me know.

 

Stephan Vance

 

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From: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org [mailto:sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org]
On Behalf Of Kathy Keehan
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:37 PM
To: sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
Subject: [SDCBC] Hoping to find a kid trailer for February 2 and 3

 

Hello all,

The California Bicycle Coalition is coming to town for their quarterly board
meeting on February 2 and 3rd. One of the CBC board members would like to
bring their family and do some cycling. I'm wondering if anyone on this list
has a bike trailer for a child that they could borrow for that weekend.
Please let me know if you would be willing to loan out your trailer. Thanks.

Kathy

 

------------------------------------------

Kathy Keehan

Executive Director

San Diego County Bicycle Coalition

P.O. Box 34544

San Diego, CA 92163

858.487.6063

execdir at sdcbc.org

www.sdcbc.org

 

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From gcarman at san.rr.com  Sun Dec 23 10:31:56 2007
From: gcarman at san.rr.com (Gene Carman)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:31:56 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] FYI   Mission Bay Bike Paths closed until 5/08
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References: <002e01c84421$ffd3a890$ff7af9b0$@org>
Message-ID: <20071223153208.ZVJR14132.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@ppg1.san.rr.com>

Bike paths along the south eastern edge and eastern edge of Mission 
Bay are closed until May 2008.  Paths from the intersection of Fiesta 
Island Drive and East Mission Bay drive on around and parallel to Sea 
World Drive along and past Sea World have been closed until May 2008 
according to the signs posted on the chain link fences surrounding 
the paths.  The paths are closed for future improvement...  pavement 
repairs and lighting are the cited reasons.

For cyclists wishing to use a path to go to Ocean Beach, I suggest 
taking Sea World Drive to South Shores Park (the entrance to the boat 
launch area just east of Sea World) and crossing Sea World Drive to 
the San Diego River shared road, this connects to the path at the 
Sunset Cliff Blvd Bridge...  this will allow you to bypass the 50MPH 
intersections and sweeping exit ramps of the "mixmaster" of Sea World 
Drive, Sunset Cliffs and West Mission Bay drive where you would 
otherwise have to take the lane in fast traffic to avoid being 
"swept" down one of exit roads to destinations beyond.

No alternatives are offered at the posted Closed Path 
signs...  typical of the non transportation attitude of San Diego and 
California, with regard to Bike Paths...  if these were true 
transportation corridors, road closure signs would be posted, along 
with cones, and detours...  but that is not the case, as bikes are 
just "toys for recreation" in the eyes of local government.    


From dwhite7 at san.rr.com  Sun Dec 23 10:49:31 2007
From: dwhite7 at san.rr.com (Dave White)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:49:31 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] FYI   Mission Bay Bike Paths closed until 5/08
In-Reply-To: <20071223153208.ZVJR14132.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@ppg1.san.rr.com>
References: <002e01c84421$ffd3a890$ff7af9b0$@org>
	<20071223153208.ZVJR14132.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@ppg1.san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <295c262d22499f51307607c2c950b7eb@san.rr.com>

Thanks Gene.  For that long of a closure, and the chances for 
"seat-of-the-pants" alternate routes to be rather dicey, it would seem 
in both the City's and cyclists best interests for temporary Bike 
Detour signs to be posted to define the best alternate route - just as 
was done at places like 56 BP at Carmel Mtn Rd/Azuaga and at the 56 BP 
pond crossing (still flooded 18 months after "slimy sunday").  This is 
a Pedal to the Park route, so we will monitor progress prior to Stage 
3, May 25th.
Dave White

On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Gene Carman wrote:

> Bike paths along the south eastern edge and eastern edge of Mission
> Bay are closed until May 2008.  Paths from the intersection of Fiesta
> Island Drive and East Mission Bay drive on around and parallel to Sea
> World Drive along and past Sea World have been closed until May 2008
> according to the signs posted on the chain link fences surrounding
> the paths.  The paths are closed for future improvement...  pavement
> repairs and lighting are the cited reasons.
>
> For cyclists wishing to use a path to go to Ocean Beach, I suggest
> taking Sea World Drive to South Shores Park (the entrance to the boat
> launch area just east of Sea World) and crossing Sea World Drive to
> the San Diego River shared road, this connects to the path at the
> Sunset Cliff Blvd Bridge...  this will allow you to bypass the 50MPH
> intersections and sweeping exit ramps of the "mixmaster" of Sea World
> Drive, Sunset Cliffs and West Mission Bay drive where you would
> otherwise have to take the lane in fast traffic to avoid being
> "swept" down one of exit roads to destinations beyond.
>
> No alternatives are offered at the posted Closed Path
> signs...  typical of the non transportation attitude of San Diego and
> California, with regard to Bike Paths...  if these were true
> transportation corridors, road closure signs would be posted, along
> with cones, and detours...  but that is not the case, as bikes are
> just "toys for recreation" in the eyes of local government.
>
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From JimBaross at cox.net  Sun Dec 23 19:05:34 2007
From: JimBaross at cox.net (Jim Baross)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:05:34 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] FYI   Mission Bay Bike Paths closed until 5/08
In-Reply-To: <295c262d22499f51307607c2c950b7eb@san.rr.com>
References: <002e01c84421$ffd3a890$ff7af9b0$@org>
	<20071223153208.ZVJR14132.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@ppg1.san.rr.com>
	<295c262d22499f51307607c2c950b7eb@san.rr.com>
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I suggest that those of you who use, used or would use the closed 
section contact your City Councilmember and/or the Mayor with maybe a 
complaint, but certainly with a request for alternative routing 
development and info.

Jim (wheels that squeak get more grease) Baross

At 07:49 AM 12/23/2007, Dave White wrote:
>Thanks Gene.  For that long of a closure, and the chances for
>"seat-of-the-pants" alternate routes to be rather dicey, it would seem
>in both the City's and cyclists best interests for temporary Bike
>Detour signs to be posted to define the best alternate route - just as
>was done at places like 56 BP at Carmel Mtn Rd/Azuaga and at the 56 BP
>pond crossing (still flooded 18 months after "slimy sunday").  This is
>a Pedal to the Park route, so we will monitor progress prior to Stage
>3, May 25th.
>Dave White
>
>On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Gene Carman wrote:
>
> > Bike paths along the south eastern edge and eastern edge of Mission
> > Bay are closed until May 2008.  Paths from the intersection of Fiesta
> > Island Drive and East Mission Bay drive on around and parallel to Sea
> > World Drive along and past Sea World have been closed until May 2008
> > according to the signs posted on the chain link fences surrounding
> > the paths.  The paths are closed for future improvement...  pavement
> > repairs and lighting are the cited reasons.
> >
> > For cyclists wishing to use a path to go to Ocean Beach, I suggest
> > taking Sea World Drive to South Shores Park (the entrance to the boat
> > launch area just east of Sea World) and crossing Sea World Drive to
> > the San Diego River shared road, this connects to the path at the
> > Sunset Cliff Blvd Bridge...  this will allow you to bypass the 50MPH
> > intersections and sweeping exit ramps of the "mixmaster" of Sea World
> > Drive, Sunset Cliffs and West Mission Bay drive where you would
> > otherwise have to take the lane in fast traffic to avoid being
> > "swept" down one of exit roads to destinations beyond.
> >
> > No alternatives are offered at the posted Closed Path
> > signs...  typical of the non transportation attitude of San Diego and
> > California, with regard to Bike Paths...  if these were true
> > transportation corridors, road closure signs would be posted, along
> > with cones, and detours...  but that is not the case, as bikes are
> > just "toys for recreation" in the eyes of local government.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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From jwstump at cox.net  Sun Dec 23 20:59:29 2007
From: jwstump at cox.net (jwstump at cox.net)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:59:29 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Maintenance of Bikeways, Sidewalks, Roadways
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071223122445.035d53b0@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20071223205929.FBJUJ.147801.root@fed1rmwml32>

Jim 

Do you know the rules for maintenance of path of travel?  I know we require developers to maintain a sidewalk if construction is occurring.  Road way construction results in detours and sometimes temporary roads.  What are the rules for the different classes of bikeways?

Has any anyone search the Vehicle or Streets & Highway Codes?  Maybe such maintenance of path of travel should be part of the legislative agenda?

All the best & Happy Holidays
John Stump
---- Jim Baross <JimBaross at cox.net> wrote: 

=============
I suggest that those of you who use, used or would use the closed 
section contact your City Councilmember and/or the Mayor with maybe a 
complaint, but certainly with a request for alternative routing 
development and info.

Jim (wheels that squeak get more grease) Baross

At 07:49 AM 12/23/2007, Dave White wrote:
>Thanks Gene.  For that long of a closure, and the chances for
>"seat-of-the-pants" alternate routes to be rather dicey, it would seem
>in both the City's and cyclists best interests for temporary Bike
>Detour signs to be posted to define the best alternate route - just as
>was done at places like 56 BP at Carmel Mtn Rd/Azuaga and at the 56 BP
>pond crossing (still flooded 18 months after "slimy sunday").  This is
>a Pedal to the Park route, so we will monitor progress prior to Stage
>3, May 25th.
>Dave White
>
>On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Gene Carman wrote:
>
> > Bike paths along the south eastern edge and eastern edge of Mission
> > Bay are closed until May 2008.  Paths from the intersection of Fiesta
> > Island Drive and East Mission Bay drive on around and parallel to Sea
> > World Drive along and past Sea World have been closed until May 2008
> > according to the signs posted on the chain link fences surrounding
> > the paths.  The paths are closed for future improvement...  pavement
> > repairs and lighting are the cited reasons.
> >
> > For cyclists wishing to use a path to go to Ocean Beach, I suggest
> > taking Sea World Drive to South Shores Park (the entrance to the boat
> > launch area just east of Sea World) and crossing Sea World Drive to
> > the San Diego River shared road, this connects to the path at the
> > Sunset Cliff Blvd Bridge...  this will allow you to bypass the 50MPH
> > intersections and sweeping exit ramps of the "mixmaster" of Sea World
> > Drive, Sunset Cliffs and West Mission Bay drive where you would
> > otherwise have to take the lane in fast traffic to avoid being
> > "swept" down one of exit roads to destinations beyond.
> >
> > No alternatives are offered at the posted Closed Path
> > signs...  typical of the non transportation attitude of San Diego and
> > California, with regard to Bike Paths...  if these were true
> > transportation corridors, road closure signs would be posted, along
> > with cones, and detours...  but that is not the case, as bikes are
> > just "toys for recreation" in the eyes of local government.
> >
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From JimBaross at cox.net  Sun Dec 23 22:48:14 2007
From: JimBaross at cox.net (Jim Baross)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:48:14 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Maintenance of Bikeways, Sidewalks, Roadways
In-Reply-To: <20071223205929.FBJUJ.147801.root@fed1rmwml32>
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	<20071223205929.FBJUJ.147801.root@fed1rmwml32>
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At 05:59 PM 12/23/2007, jwstump at cox.net wrote:
>Jim
>
>Do you know the rules for maintenance of path of travel?

No, I do not... and based on court rulings to date, I'd expect that 
there are none that apply to Bike Paths... being considered as "trails"  :-(

>I know we require developers to maintain a sidewalk if construction 
>is occurring.  Road way construction results in detours and 
>sometimes temporary roads.  What are the rules for the different 
>classes of bikeways?

We/SDCBC has maintained successfully that if a roadway is open to 
motor vehicle use, it shall be open for bicycling. During 
construction when a bike lane is closed we've gotten additional signs.

There is a somewhat inadequate section of the Calif Traffic Manual 
that speaks to accommodating bicycling and walking in or around 
construction zones.

>Has any anyone search the Vehicle or Streets & Highway Codes?  Maybe 
>such maintenance of path of travel should be part of the legislative agenda?

Maybe not necessarily a legislative action, but administrative 
through Caltrans... yet another thing to do in the new year!


>All the best & Happy Holidays
>John Stump
>---- Jim Baross <JimBaross at cox.net> wrote:
>
>=============
>I suggest that those of you who use, used or would use the closed
>section contact your City Councilmember and/or the Mayor with maybe a
>complaint, but certainly with a request for alternative routing
>development and info.
>
>Jim (wheels that squeak get more grease) Baross
>
>At 07:49 AM 12/23/2007, Dave White wrote:
> >Thanks Gene.  For that long of a closure, and the chances for
> >"seat-of-the-pants" alternate routes to be rather dicey, it would seem
> >in both the City's and cyclists best interests for temporary Bike
> >Detour signs to be posted to define the best alternate route - just as
> >was done at places like 56 BP at Carmel Mtn Rd/Azuaga and at the 56 BP
> >pond crossing (still flooded 18 months after "slimy sunday").  This is
> >a Pedal to the Park route, so we will monitor progress prior to Stage
> >3, May 25th.
> >Dave White
> >
> >On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Gene Carman wrote:
> >
> > > Bike paths along the south eastern edge and eastern edge of Mission
> > > Bay are closed until May 2008.  Paths from the intersection of Fiesta
> > > Island Drive and East Mission Bay drive on around and parallel to Sea
> > > World Drive along and past Sea World have been closed until May 2008
> > > according to the signs posted on the chain link fences surrounding
> > > the paths.  The paths are closed for future improvement...  pavement
> > > repairs and lighting are the cited reasons.
> > >
> > > For cyclists wishing to use a path to go to Ocean Beach, I suggest
> > > taking Sea World Drive to South Shores Park (the entrance to the boat
> > > launch area just east of Sea World) and crossing Sea World Drive to
> > > the San Diego River shared road, this connects to the path at the
> > > Sunset Cliff Blvd Bridge...  this will allow you to bypass the 50MPH
> > > intersections and sweeping exit ramps of the "mixmaster" of Sea World
> > > Drive, Sunset Cliffs and West Mission Bay drive where you would
> > > otherwise have to take the lane in fast traffic to avoid being
> > > "swept" down one of exit roads to destinations beyond.
> > >
> > > No alternatives are offered at the posted Closed Path
> > > signs...  typical of the non transportation attitude of San Diego and
> > > California, with regard to Bike Paths...  if these were true
> > > transportation corridors, road closure signs would be posted, along
> > > with cones, and detours...  but that is not the case, as bikes are
> > > just "toys for recreation" in the eyes of local government.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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From JimBaross at cox.net  Wed Dec 26 15:46:46 2007
From: JimBaross at cox.net (Jim Baross)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:46:46 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071226124348.03d2bd40@cox.net>

Anyone got an idea for how to point out to the auto show attendees 
that the over-use of over-powered petroleum guzzlers isn't "cool"?

I'm not exactly "up" for picketing...




From neil0502 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 26 15:56:52 2007
From: neil0502 at yahoo.com (Neil Brooks)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:56:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071226124348.03d2bd40@cox.net>
Message-ID: <743597.7392.qm@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Attendance, but with a well-thought message emblazoned on your t-shirt??

Examples might include nearly /any/ non-antagonistic, cycling-friendly message,
like:

 - Cars are cool, but bikes are better (w/ a bicycle icon*)

 - MPG = &#8734; [infinity symbol}, [again: w/ a bicycle icon]

 - Two wheels are twice as good as four (ditto)

 - Cycling Saves Lives (ditto)

 - [pushing it here, but ...] "No more wars for oil" (w/ a bicycle icon)

 - Two birds, one stone (w/ bicycle icon)

etc., etc.

 
* icon like this: 

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:wDfKKg7tSN1NLM:http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/pedbimot/bike/KidsandBikeSafetyWeb/images/smallBike.jpg

OR:  http://tinyurl.com/3yb743

???


--- Jim Baross <JimBaross at cox.net> wrote:

> Anyone got an idea for how to point out to the auto show attendees 
> that the over-use of over-powered petroleum guzzlers isn't "cool"?
> 
> I'm not exactly "up" for picketing...
> 
> 
> 
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From j.eldon at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 26 17:56:40 2007
From: j.eldon at sbcglobal.net (John Eldon)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:56:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?
In-Reply-To: <743597.7392.qm@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <51828.20333.qm@web52501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This reminds me of my college days in Los Angeles. Sometime in the early 1970s a group of us bicyclists staged a non-picketing demonstration in front of the Auto Show, which was being held in the old Pan Pacific Auditorium, with its art deco facade which had been inspired by E L Cord's cars of the 1930s. We boasted about our economical, eco-friendly mode of transportation, then left for a big bike ride. 

I am planning to attend the Auto Show on Friday morning, if anyone wants to meet there.

> Anyone got an idea for how to point out to the auto show attendees 
> that the over-use of over-powered petroleum guzzlers isn't "cool"?
> 
> I'm not exactly "up" for picketing...

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From normolson at san.rr.com  Wed Dec 26 18:12:29 2007
From: normolson at san.rr.com (Norm Olson)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:12:29 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?
In-Reply-To: <51828.20333.qm@web52501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <743597.7392.qm@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I decided to chime in here.  There is no way we are going to convince the
Hummer crowd that sheer, power is not the way to go.  They are already
tuning out the green message by buying  one of those monstrosities.
Picketing is just going to make the bicycle crowd look like fanatics and
maybe even targets on the road.  My own personal favorite of getting rid of
massive gas guzzlers is by bringing back the gas guzzler tax, obviously
something that is not going to happen with this administration.  I got a
discount coupon recently for the auto show.  With a grunt of disgust I put
it in my recycling bin.  

 

Norm

 

 

From: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org [mailto:sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org]
On Behalf Of John Eldon
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:57 PM
To: Neil Brooks; sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
Subject: Re: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?

 

This reminds me of my college days in Los Angeles. Sometime in the early
1970s a group of us bicyclists staged a non-picketing demonstration in front
of the Auto Show, which was being held in the old Pan Pacific Auditorium,
with its art deco facade which had been inspired by E L Cord's cars of the
1930s. We boasted about our economical, eco-friendly mode of transportation,
then left for a big bike ride. 

I am planning to attend the Auto Show on Friday morning, if anyone wants to
meet there.

> Anyone got an idea for how to point out to the auto show attendees 
> that the over-use of over-powered petroleum guzzlers isn't "cool"?
> 
> I'm not exactly "up" for picketing...

 

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From danettehoffert at gmail.com  Wed Dec 26 18:35:11 2007
From: danettehoffert at gmail.com (Danette Hoffert)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:35:11 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?
In-Reply-To: <003501c84814$ca01cac0$5e056040$@rr.com>
References: <743597.7392.qm@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<51828.20333.qm@web52501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1dfe83a00712261535ja76461bx858f6e006353effa@mail.gmail.com>

There are some electric cars and non-gas guzzling concept cars at the show,
so it is not all gas-guzzlers.

I have attended the show some years and I 1. ride my bike 3-4 x more miles
per year than my car (my insurance company did not believe my mileage report
so I showed them the receipts for two consecutive smog checks, I digress)
2. If we lived in a world with no cars I would be ecstatic.

I liked the following bike jersey ( a guy from Arizona's "commuter jersey")
Gas Sucks Ride A Bike (back)
Front (fueled by chocolate)
Sleeve (one less car on the road)
Other sleeve (one more parking spot for you)
maybe somewhere else (one less war for US)

Danette




On Dec 26, 2007 3:12 PM, Norm Olson <normolson at san.rr.com> wrote:

>  I decided to chime in here.  There is no way we are going to convince the
> Hummer crowd that sheer, power is not the way to go.  They are already
> tuning out the green message by buying  one of those monstrosities.
> Picketing is just going to make the bicycle crowd look like fanatics and
> maybe even targets on the road.  My own personal favorite of getting rid of
> massive gas guzzlers is by bringing back the gas guzzler tax, obviously
> something that is not going to happen with this administration.  I got a
> discount coupon recently for the auto show.  With a grunt of disgust I put
> it in my recycling bin.
>
>
>
> Norm
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org [mailto:
> sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org] *On Behalf Of *John Eldon
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:57 PM
> *To:* Neil Brooks; sdcbc at bikesandiego.org
> *Subject:* Re: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?
>
>
>
> This reminds me of my college days in Los Angeles. Sometime in the early
> 1970s a group of us bicyclists staged a non-picketing demonstration in front
> of the Auto Show, which was being held in the old Pan Pacific Auditorium,
> with its art deco facade which had been inspired by E L Cord's cars of the
> 1930s. We boasted about our economical, eco-friendly mode of transportation,
> then left for a big bike ride.
>
> I am planning to attend the Auto Show on Friday morning, if anyone wants
> to meet there.
>
> > Anyone got an idea for how to point out to the auto show attendees
> > that the over-use of over-powered petroleum guzzlers isn't "cool"?
> >
> > I'm not exactly "up" for picketing...
>
>
>
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From jwstump at cox.net  Wed Dec 26 18:55:27 2007
From: jwstump at cox.net (jwstump at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:55:27 -0500
Subject: [SDCBC] Buy a Booth?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071226124348.03d2bd40@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20071226185527.0O52W.127514.root@fed1wml15.mgt.cox.net>

The Auto show is a business.  They want to sell things.

Why not get display space at next year's show?

The promoters might see the transportation link.  They sure will see the color green.

Happy Holidays

John


---- Jim Baross <JimBaross at cox.net> wrote: 

=============
Anyone got an idea for how to point out to the auto show attendees 
that the over-use of over-powered petroleum guzzlers isn't "cool"?

I'm not exactly "up" for picketing...



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From normolson at san.rr.com  Wed Dec 26 19:17:01 2007
From: normolson at san.rr.com (Norm Olson)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:17:01 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?
In-Reply-To: <1dfe83a00712261535ja76461bx858f6e006353effa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <743597.7392.qm@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	
	<51828.20333.qm@web52501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	
	<003501c84814$ca01cac0$5e056040$@rr.com>
	<1dfe83a00712261535ja76461bx858f6e006353effa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004601c8481d$cdc39ea0$694adbe0$@rr.com>

Danette:  You cannot see me right now but I am making bowing motions toward
you.  I have gotten so bad about my commuting that I am feeling very guilty.
I used to ride to work all of the time, even in a snow blizzard (and yes, I
am one of those who walked to school 10 miles every day in a blizzard,
barefoot <grin>).  After moving out to southern California with perpetual
summer I have actually fallen off.  It is nice to hear from those of you who
keep it up on a daily basis. 

 

Norm 

 

From: Danette Hoffert [mailto:danettehoffert at gmail.com] 



There are some electric cars and non-gas guzzling concept cars at the show,
so it is not all gas-guzzlers.

 

I have attended the show some years and I 1. ride my bike 3-4 x more miles
per year than my car (my insurance company did not believe my mileage report
so I showed them the receipts for two consecutive smog checks, I digress)
2. If we lived in a world with no cars I 

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From JimBaross at cox.net  Wed Dec 26 16:42:30 2007
From: JimBaross at cox.net (Jim Baross)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:42:30 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?
In-Reply-To: <743597.7392.qm@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<743597.7392.qm@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071226133148.03494a50@cox.net>

I have a plastic sign I got from San Francisco bike advocates that has this

      BICYCLING
   a quiet statement
AGAINST OIL WARS

I had two of these. One got taken off of the back of the bike I had 
it on... I'm not sure if the thief agreed with the statement and 
wanted it for themselves or if they disagreed with it and wanted to 
destroy it.  :-(  Anyway, I got 99% favorable responses from people 
who read it, though one fellow yelled that "don't you know that your 
tires are made with petroleum?" He wasn't belligerent and agreed that 
I was getting lots of miles from the minor amount of oil used for my tires.

Oh, Adventure Cycling Org sells a t-shirt with a photo of a small boy 
furiously pedaling a small tricycle and a similarly aged girl on the 
back, both grinning and enjoying the breeze. The text below says, 
"Remember the Thrill"

At 12:56 PM 12/26/2007, Neil Brooks wrote:
>Attendance, but with a well-thought message emblazoned on your t-shirt??
>
>Examples might include nearly /any/ non-antagonistic, 
>cycling-friendly message,
>like:
>
>  - Cars are cool, but bikes are better (w/ a bicycle icon*)
>
>  - MPG = &#8734; [infinity symbol}, [again: w/ a bicycle icon]
>
>  - Two wheels are twice as good as four (ditto)
>
>  - Cycling Saves Lives (ditto)
>
>  - [pushing it here, but ...] "No more wars for oil" (w/ a bicycle icon)
>
>  - Two birds, one stone (w/ bicycle icon)
>
>etc., etc.
>
>
>* icon like this:
>
>http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:wDfKKg7tSN1NLM:http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/pedbimot/bike/KidsandBikeSafetyWeb/images/smallBike.jpg
>
>OR:  http://tinyurl.com/3yb743
>
>???
>
>
>--- Jim Baross <JimBaross at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Anyone got an idea for how to point out to the auto show attendees
> > that the over-use of over-powered petroleum guzzlers isn't "cool"?
> >
> > I'm not exactly "up" for picketing...
> >
> >
> >
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From gcarman at san.rr.com  Thu Dec 27 11:13:28 2007
From: gcarman at san.rr.com (Gene Carman)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:13:28 -0800
Subject: [SDCBC] Auto Show at Convention Ctr?
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How about a T shirt that on the front just says:  Google CVC 21200.

On the back just this:  Every person riding a bicycle upon a roadway 
has all the rights and is subject to all the provisions applicable to 
the driver of a vehicle.

And that booth that jwstump mentioned...  how about stocking it with 
flyers that look like this:
http://api.ning.com/files/z2YclVplwX5DVfjDHQqdYay70N*D4U8q8yWAC



In fact, why not just make up T shirts with that sign on them.

The booth could have a full set of literature from "Street Smarts" to 
the "DMV Handbook..." the latter already book marked on the pages 
with the bicycle info.

People are going to drive... even if all the oil was gone, there 
would still be some form of alternative technology to allow some form 
of "car."   We just want drivers to share the road.

Of course it would also be nice if there were bicycle freeways 
too...  to preserve the inertia of a moving body...  rather than 
having to stop at each and every intersection.  sigh...



At 01:42 PM 12/26/2007, Jim Baross wrote:
>I have a plastic sign I got from San Francisco bike advocates that has this
>
>       BICYCLING
>    a quiet statement
>AGAINST OIL WARS
>
>I had two of these. One got taken off of the back of the bike I had
>it on... I'm not sure if the thief agreed with the statement and
>wanted it for themselves or if