[SDCBC] SR56-Sorrento Valley Road connector

[Tim Brooks]

I'm with Wade--something rideable sooner is 
better than waiting for all the bells and whistles in ten years.

Tim

  At 03:09 PM 8/29/2007, Wade Blomgren wrote:
>To me it hinges on how vulnerable the undercrossing would be to
>extended closure from flooding.  I assume the bridge option will be
>much more expensive.
>
>Since either solution is probably many dollars and years from actually
>being implemented (along those lines, how long is it going to take
>Caltrans to restore the 50 meters of asphalt at the north end of SVR
>to make that section all-weather and less sketchy on narrow
>tires????....that's got to be going on 10 years or more now ), it
>seems to me lobbying for some relatively dirt cheap improvements to
>the current bike path terminus would make a lot of sense.
>
>A curb cut and some asphalt on the east side of ECR would accommodate
>entry from and exit to southbound ECR, and repaving of the ragged
>existing ramp (there's already a curb cut), and ideally, some
>realignment as to pitch and switchback angle of the ramp on the west
>side would improve that transition.  As I'm sure Serge would agree,
>it's not all that hard to get to SVR from there via El Camino Real and
>Carmel Valley Road.  Or, if you're ultimately headed south through
>Sorrento Valley, it's not that big a deal to just go on up ECR and
>turn right on Carmel Mountain, probably less arduous than a 7.7%
>bridge, and if you're going the other way (out Carmel Valley road to
>the beach), the 50 yards going past the park&ride you'd get on SVR
>isn't of much additional use compared to the aforementioned taking of
>ECR direct to Carmel Valley Road.   I realize the roadway transitions
>aren't necessarily practical for, say, kids on training wheels, but at
>this point SVR itself isn't much of a destination unless you're headed
>for a tour of the sewer pump station.
>
>I would hope that such obvious and inexpensive improvement to the
>current transitions wouldn't impede further consideration of extending
>the class 1 facility, but frankly even if it does I think it's worth
>it - those transitions are needed regardless of how they decide to
>deal with the freeway.
>
>Wade
>
>On 8/29/07, Kathy Keehan <execdir at sdcbc.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your input needed!
> >
> > We've been asked to provide comments for a feasibility study for the
> > connection between the west end of the 56 bike path and Sorrento Valley
> > Road. As many of you know, there's a giant 
> freeway in the way there, and the
> > City and Caltrans are looking for ways to get bicyclists across.
> >
> > There are a couple of options, basically one over the freeway and one under
> > it. Which do you like better?
> >
> > The bridge would be your typical 12 foot wide bike/ped bridge over the
> > freeway. It would be about 17 feet above the 
> traffic at a minimum, and would
> > have 6.5% and 7.7% grades for the approaches 
> (200 to 400 feet long depending
> > on the design), and 90 degree turns at each end of the bridge.
> >
> > The undercrossing would go under I-5, with a 
> minimum vertical clearance of 8
> > foot 3 inches. There will be concerns about water (particularly in wet
> > years), lighting, and security. The grades down to the undercrossing would
> > be about 7.5% for a couple hundred feet, then up at about 3% for about 80
> > feet. It will have a fairly sharp turn on the west side of the freeway to
> > connect to existing Sorrento Valley Road.
> >
> > Bridge ­ less potential maintenance, open even in wet weather, uphill both
> > ways, over noisy auto traffic/fumes
> >
> > Undercrossing ­ downhill both ways, quieter, more potential maintenance,
> > potential to be closed in wet weather
> >
> > Which do you prefer?
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> >
> > Kathy Keehan
> >
> > Executive Director
> >
> > San Diego County Bicycle Coalition
> >
> > P.O. Box 34544
> >
> > San Diego, CA 92163
> >
> > 858.487.6063
> >
> > execdir at sdcbc.org
> >
> > www.sdcbc.org
> >
> >
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