[SDCBC] more data on yesterday's fatality in Poway

Sun Apr 1 02:19:45 EDT 2007

I pedal I-67 past this location 6-10 times per year. While we can only
assume what the intent of the cyclist was, we can take into consideration
the characteristics of roads in the area. 

Poway Road is not very cyclist friendly. There is virtually no bicycle lane
east or west bound from I-67 to the built up area of Poway. A cyclist would
have to take the lane for several miles on Poway Road in either direction. A
cyclist familiar with the roads into Poway from I-67 would most certainly
take Scripps Poway Parkway which joins onto I-67 about a mile or so farther
South (the direction the cyclist was coming from, the intersection he
crossed before Poway road.) SPP has a wide and very easy to navigate bicycle
lane. This leads me to believe the cyclist was attempting a u-turn to go
back in the direction of his reported home, Lakeside via south bound I-67.

My recollection is that I-67 has 2 lanes North bound at this intersection
(maybe 3, certainly not 1) and one (possibly two) lane for the left hand
turn. Traffic is normally going much faster than the 50 MPH posted. I-67
also has a higher number of high profile vehicles due to the occupations and
recreation preferences of the typical users of I-67. It is possible that the
cyclist did not see the vehicle in the left hand motor vehicle lane due to
the large motor vehicles in the right motor vehicle lane. 

I-67 has a higher frequency of accidents than other roads of similar traffic
volume in San Diego. 

One of our Cyclo-Vet members, Buzz Burnett posted the following regarding
Marc Carpenter, SDBC member, on our news list this evening. It was reported
that he was wearing an SDBC jersey at the time of the collision. 

History of Marc Carpenter (Cyclist in News) through USA Cycling website

06/23/2006 - San Diego
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-611>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-611> Omnium 2006 -
Individual Time Trial - Cat 4/5 - 35-99 
DNF Marc Carpenter 51948 

06/23/2006 - San Diego
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-611>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-611> Omnium 2006 -
Individual Time Trial - Master - 35-99 
DNF Marc Carpenter 51948 

05/07/2006 - Teleperformance
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759> 's Tour of the
Gila - Stage Race - Master - 40-99 
40 Marc Carpenter 51948 13:32:07 604 Karl Strauss SDBC

05/06/2006 - Teleperformance
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759> 's Tour of the
Gila - Criterium - Master - 40-99 
43 Marc Carpenter 51948 1:00:50 604 Karl Strauss SDBC

05/04/2006 - Teleperformance
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759> 's Tour of the
Gila - Road Race - Master - 40-99 
39 Marc Carpenter 51948 3:22:09 604 Karl Strauss SDBC

05/04/2006 - Teleperformance
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759> 's Tour of the
Gila - Road Race - Master - 40-99 
43 Marc Carpenter 51948 4:03:38 604 Karl Strauss SDBC

05/04/2006 - Teleperformance
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759> 's Tour of the
Gila - Road Race - Master - 40-99 
82 Marc Carpenter 51948 4:15:56 604 Karl Strauss SDBC

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5/03/2006 - Teleperformance
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2006-759> 's Tour of the
Gila - Individual Time Trial - Master - 40-99 
47 Marc Carpenter 51948 0:49:34 604 Karl Strauss SDBC

10/02/2005 - Tucson
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1878>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1878> Bicycle
Classic - Stage Race - Master - Masters - 45-55 
24 Marc Carpenter 51948 Karl Strauss/SDBC 

10/02/2005 - Tucson
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1878>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1878> Bicycle
Classic - Road Race - Master - Masters - 45-55 
27 Marc Carpenter 51948 Karl Strauss/SDBC 

10/01/2005 - Tucson
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1878>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1878> Bicycle
Classic - Road Race - Master - Masters - 45-55 
DNF Marc Carpenter 51948 Karl Strauss/SDBC Marc 

09/30/2005 - Tucson
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1878>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1878> Bicycle
Classic - Individual Time Trial - Master - Masters - 45-55 
33 Marc Carpenter 51948 Karl Strauss/SDBC 

08/28/2005 - Summer End
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1054>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-1054> Grand Prix -
Criterium - Master - 45-99 
14 Marc Carpenter 51948 312 San Diego Bicycle Club 

04/28/2005 - Outside
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-44>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-44> Magazine's Tour
of the Gila - Road Race - Master - Rr 1 - 45-99 
33 Marc Carpenter 51948 3:49:14 641 Karl Strauss SCBC

04/27/2005 - Outside
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-44>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2005-44> Magazine's Tour
of the Gila - Individual Time Trial - Master - 45-99 
37 Marc Carpenter 51948 0:51:52 641 Karl Strauss SCBC

05/05/2002 - Tour of the
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2002-523>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2002-523> Gila - Road
Race - 
13 Marc Carpenter 51948 3:46:00 606 SDBC 

05/05/2002 - Tour of the
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2002-523>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2002-523> Gila - Stage
Race - 
13 Marc Carpenter 51948 7:36:02 606 SDBC 

05/04/2002 - Tour of the
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2002-523>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2002-523> Gila -
Criterium - 
18 Marc Carpenter 51948 0:43:00 606 SDBC 

05/03/2002 - Tour of the
<http://www.usacycli
<http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2002-523>
ng.org/results/index.php?permit=2002-523> Gila - Road
Race - 
13 Marc Carpenter 51948 3:07:02 606 

Darryl MacKenzie

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From: sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org [mailto:sdcbc-bounces at bikesandiego.org]
On Behalf Of Kathy Keehan
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:03 PM
To: 'John Eldon'; SDCBC at bikesandiego.org
Subject: Re: [SDCBC] more data on yesterday's fatality in Poway

This is exactly the scenario I was talking about. If the situation was how
it usually is, cars are parked in the northbound shoulder, and cyclists ride
in the right hand lane. Sounds like he was either riding in the right lane
or  moving over to get into the left turn lane (which is what I think the
officer was trying to say) to get onto Poway Road. Either way, sounds like
they don't quite know what's going on - 'in the right lane or shoulder'?
'veered to the left' ?

The conditions yesterday were terrific for visibility - clear and sunny. The
sun would be toward the west, so not in anyone's eyes. Looks to me like
either the driver of the car wasn't paying attention to what was happening
in front of them, and/or was speeding (not uncommon on this stretch of
roadway), or the bicyclist didn't see the car or misjudged the speed of the
car coming from behind. I wonder what the other witnesses saw? There should
have been plenty of them - it's a very busy intersection, especially on a
Friday afternoon. 

The north to west turn is indeed as difficult as it looks on the map. The
speed limit is at least 50 mph. 

Kathy

From: John Eldon [mailto:j.eldon at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:36 AM
To: execdir at sdcbc.org; SDCBC at bikesandiego.org
Subject: more data on yesterday's fatality in Poway

 from the U-T website

Although the account reads as though the cyclist were attempting a U-turn
followed by a right, rather than a simple vehicular left turn, I strongly
suspect the latter is the case. (More sloppy journalism, e.g., which
direction was Jeannie Franklin riding in Solana Beach?) I have to plead
total unfamiliarity with this intersection, but the Mapquest aerial photo
makes it appear signalized. Does anyone know the speed limit through here?
Is this north-to-west left turn as difficult as it looks on the map?

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address
<http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohis
tory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&p
hone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=Poway&state=CA&zipcode>
&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude
=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=Poway&state=CA&zipcode=

John E.

 March 31, 2007 

POWAY: A bicyclist was killed in a collision with a car yesterday on state
Route 67 at Poway Road during rush hour. 

  <http://www.signonsandiego.com/images/t.gif> 

The cyclist was identified by the county Medical Examiner's Office   as
attorney Marc Carpenter, 46, of Lakeside. 

Sheriff's officials said the accident occurred about 5:10 p.m. a short
distance south of the "T" intersection. 

Carpenter was pedaling north on Route 67 in the right lane or shoulder and
veered into the left lane, trying to reach the right-turn lane onto
westbound Poway Road, sheriff's Sgt. Lloyd Muenzer said. 

Muenzer said Carpenter collided with a Nissan Sentra in the left lane, also
going north. The impact knocked Carpenter onto the roof and windshield of
the car, then onto the pavement north of the intersection. He was declared
dead at the scene. 

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